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agreed when i was in a van i carried that flexible stuff from rs but it didnt hold itself in place.

I still think a premade hole, painted etc does not require a grommit. Any knockouts or drilled holes do. Thats what we do.

But then im a big fan of plastic end stations, metal panels give nothing imo but i know im in the minority

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I still think a premade hole, painted etc does not require a grommit. Any knockouts or drilled holes do. Thats what we do.

agree 100%, i think i grommet pre-made holes out of habit. i know if i didn't do it one day it would bug the hell out of me and i'd end up putting one in anyway.

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I think Adi means there is only just enough room to route the cables through the hole without a grommet.

So the gap between the mounting surface and the panel.

Yep, sure did.

490x and euro mini are 2 examples.

although euro mini now ships with stand offs.

use plastic but if metalclad then yes id use a grommit. as i said above knockouts etc need grommits, premade entrys do not. im not stating this as fact im stating what we do

I agree, i call it common sense, if the hole is smooth then is never going to be a chance in hell of it cutting through flex or T&E.

Not arguing, but most premade holes still require a grommet IMHO. ever seen the edges in them?

Who else carries a selection of files?

Have you ever seen a rough edge on a manufactures hole?

If so, what panel.

I really can't be ar**** with it anymore.

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