Suggested Systems For A Diy Install

[Oxo]

Thanks for the leaflet.

I also fit gun cabinates and other security devices.

Your suggestion came across as not having them nor the certs.

I concur an alarm is not needed provided the guns are stored as suggested and passed.

 

I also agree you get 3 quotes discussing your neeeds with a professional company with an option to have monitoring at a latter date. Or at least a speech dialler fittted.

 

 

 

http://www.nsi.org.uk/

 

http://ssaib.org/

 

The avove are the suggested routes you take.

[Ronnie]

I also agree you get 3 quotes discussing your neeeds with a professional company with an option to have monitoring at a latter date. Or at least a speech dialler fittted.

 

try not to use those words in the same sentence.

[MrHappy]

I think asking the point about the firearms and police response was, in hindsight, a poor question to raise here. I will discuss with my local firearms officer who will know clearly whether registered firearms will alter the response to a 999 for an alarm activation. I suspect it will, but I'm interested to find out.

 

Poor question ?

 

Ain't that a touch insulting to make that statement on a forum where the vast majority have had some involvement in supplying signalling intruder alarms

 

ACPO define 2 type of alarm systems-

 

Type A, complaint with the regs installed / maintained by complaint co. &  holds a Police Authority URN, subject to a police response as defined in the ACPO policy.

 

 & Type B, (qoute from document below)

 

 

 

3.4      POLICE ATTENDANCE - Type B Security Systems

3.4.1   The electronic security industry has seen an increase in the availability of Type B alarms (portable personal attack and

CCTV systems).  These are being sold and bought with the expectation of prompt police attendance.  ACPO, whilst not wishing to preclude the ability to provide a prompt response to crimes in action, observe that the

development of this technology might if unchecked lead to significant additional demands and higher expectations of police attendance than would be appropriate.

3.4.2   To obtain police attendance, Type B systems will require some additional indication from a person at the scene that a

criminal offence is in progress which indicates that police response is required.  This will require human intervention such as member of public, owner or agent visiting, or viewing the premises.  The addition of electronic means to provide confirmation will not promote such systems to Type A or achieve police response.

3.4.3   There is no guarantee of police response to Type B systems.  Type B calls should be passed to the police by public telephone lines or 999 as appropriate.  The level of police response will depend on the quality of the information received.

3.4.4   Automatic dialling equipment must not be programmed to call police telephone numbers.

               3.4.5   Calls received from non‑compliant ARCs/RVRCs and calls from compliant ARCs/RVRCs without a valid URN will not

               receive a police response unless circumstances outlined in 3.4.2 and 3.4.3

               above applies.

 

I looked at your IP to see if I could check your local force policy with regards to premises & guns ects, sadly "multinational media co." did not help however I'd expect an IT job tittle in this type of organisation to be more than able to provide an alarm c/w URN w/o issue ?

[Oxo]

try not to use those words in the same sentence.

Why?

It`s better than using SMS.

The system isn`t for the guns.

I agree if he is looking at HUD then a dialler is insuffiecient.

 

Or have you never fitted one?

[MrHappy]

i've always hated speech dialers & its not the fact there low security & absent of recurring revenue, I always sounded like a knob end on the recordings, I hate'em for that alone

[Oxo]

LOL.

Get the customer to do it.

[Ronnie]

.

 

Or have you never fitted one?

 

 

 

 

no, something which isn't ever going to change..

[Oxo]

Oh well.

Sometimes that is all the customer wants no matter what you can suggest.

Yes they are low security, yes they are susceptable to attack. Yes you can sound a bit strange on them.

Better than SMS. Oh but you`ve never done that I suppose?

 

 

Do you just walk away?

 

What did you do before Dualcom/Redcare/Voda?

Never use a Digi?

 

Just asking.

[Ronnie]

Oh well.

Sometimes that is all the customer wants no matter what you can suggest.

Yes they are low security, yes they are susceptable to attack. Yes you can sound a bit strange on them.

Better than SMS. Oh but you`ve never done that I suppose? No.

 

 

Do you just walk away? Yes.

 

What did you do before Dualcom/Redcare/Voda? Digi, never used redcare in my own business only dualcom when required but not anymore.

Never use a Digi? Yes but not anymore.

 

Just asking.

[matthew.brough]

Oh well.

Sometimes that is all the customer wants no matter what you can suggest.

Yes they are low security, yes they are susceptable to attack. Yes you can sound a bit strange on them.

Better than SMS. Oh but you`ve never done that I suppose?

 

 

Do you just walk away?

 

What did you do before Dualcom/Redcare/Voda?

Never use a Digi?

 

Just asking.

I'd rather walk away and we don't have diallers. Lowest spec signalling we have is single path IP,grade 4.

Completely understand why people offer alternatives. In past experience, those that skimp on things like that are not great customers as its all about price price price which ends up with them being not a valuable customer to us.