Panels That Send Text Messages

[Neutech]

Exactely the same as you any registered installer. There are very good and very very bad!.

Insoectorates are a good idea - when they work!, but in this security trade they simply don't produce what they say they do, thats why i'm not regustered - i'm not a hypocrite.

A custmer complaining needs not to loose time in doing so. Don't forget to an inspectorate they pay a certificate fee for them to assure quality on THEIR behalf.

But what happens in real life? They get a letter saying "they are working with them".

Personally i think it's long overdue that trading standards got involved and ripped the cosy rug out.

Thise that really try ti maintain a hood standard must be sickenned when another si called restered installer is incapable or simply don't care, and usually it go's on fir many years.

 

Well said that man

[arfur mo]

Well said that man

thank you, (sorry for typo's everyone).

if anyone cares to go back to my earliest post in here, with an open mind, it is 'where i came in'. i worked fir several companies under the old NSCIA flag, tbh the installation standards were very high. as in any organisation stupid things happened but got put right.

i subscribed the the theory being in an inspectorate meant by default you also had immense pride in what you do, that was really only upto the year before i left, to start up. Shield Protection was sold out to Honeywell, to increase Shields 'paper' worth every company they could get that had contracts they bought.

a lot of these companies were registered installers, not all were bad but some were unbelievable poor, rubbish that was not certificated suddenly was, basically Shield in my opinion went from high quality co. to anything goes, morale went through the floor as service engineers were working 15 hour days, just to keep up, no maintenance's were being done compounding the issues, but thats back then.

currently working on a site where last year before my evolvement there was a break-in, it has 24 hour on-site guards. format is ARC phones guard who then contacts his supervisor, who then decides if it s policed (this is due to previous black listing).

so one Friday, a detector triggered, guard resets, triggers again guard, not allowed to leave security post, unless another is available asked for it to be disabled, which the engineer remotes in and obligees on the guards authority, despite standing orders of authorisation only by management. - loss = over £400k. Grey area as guard requested but a mess-up.

After, they decide to do a full walk test, and found motion sensors tapped over in fact 60% of detection not working (TS.2500 system), at this point i'm invited in and asked to assess.

found 8 shutters not working, 2 with contacts completely missing, detectors damaged and loose fixings, connections made in 3" boxes - no lids. expander lid tamper contacts never used (link on). doors not working, corrosion in surface contacts - i.e. a massive list. a Mez floor installed but detection not moved making it virtually useless, a what used to be a rented out section, now used for storage but not reinstated.

if you consider this site is 300 x 200 meters, System has been in over at least 15 years, so natural alteration will occur, it is for the service engineer to advise the client to have alteration/additions and seek permission for sale to attend, this should be on paper and signed. the installer could not provide one copy when requested by the client of any disconnections notified, leaving them wide open to failure litigation.

it matters not to the client which inspectorate is 'looking after them' either badge is proclaimed as a sign of guaranteed quality - me thinks with my total respects if the good registered installers - that is not the case, and falls far below 'fit for purpose'.

[kka]

Many thanks.

[Lwillis]

Exactely the same as you any registered installer. There are very good and very very bad!.

Insoectorates are a good idea - when they work!, but in this security trade they simply don't produce what they say they do, thats why i'm not regustered - i'm not a hypocrite.

A custmer complaining needs not to loose time in doing so. Don't forget to an inspectorate they pay a certificate fee for them to assure quality on THEIR behalf.

But what happens in real life? They get a letter saying "they are working with them".

Personally i think it's long overdue that trading standards got involved and ripped the cosy rug out.

Thise that really try ti maintain a hood standard must be sickenned when another si called restered installer is incapable or simply don't care, and usually it go's on fir many years.

I'm sorry I couldn't even understand that will all the spelling mistakes.

I allways advice clients of extra works and panel upgrades etc. and any disconnections should be logged and the customer signed for. Who ever said that it shouldn't be.

[arfur mo]

I'm sorry I couldn't even understand that will all the spelling mistakes.

I allways advice clients of extra works and panel upgrades etc. and any disconnections should be logged and the customer signed for. Who ever said that it shouldn't be.

noyjing in forum regs about diction, spelling or composition

[Oxo]

Should be.

Then we might be able to understand you.

That could mean you were appreciated rather than humoured.

[Lwillis]

Anything in there abouts being a complete and utter ****? I think you fit the bill

[Oxo]

[arfur mo]

I'm sorry I couldn't even understand that will all the spelling mistakes.

I allways advice clients of extra works and panel upgrades etc. and any disconnections should be logged and the customer signed for. Who ever said that it shouldn't be.

well then your in the good guys group, but you seem to think others with badges also are?

Should be.

Then we might be able to understand you.

That could mean you were appreciated rather than humoured.

Que James?

Anything in there abouts being a complete and utter ****? I think you fit the bill

enjoy your blinkers

[Cubit]

Anything in there abouts being a complete and utter ****? I think you fit the bill

:roflmao:

Nearly spilt my beer.