arfur mo Posted November 8, 2013 Posted November 8, 2013 I fcking give in with you. That chip on your shoulder and the Jamiesons..... more if your reasoned replies? i have opinions, strong ones. you disagree thats great and lets debate, just please state why. don't expect me to roll over any time soon to your opinion! a forum is about debate, having your own opinion and even arguing, its not for anyone to rule by trying to resort to insult! If you think education is difficult, try being stupid!!!!
Cubit Posted November 8, 2013 Posted November 8, 2013 more if your reasoned replies? i have opinions, strong ones. you disagree thats great and lets debate, just please state why. don't expect me to roll over any time soon to your opinion! a forum is about debate, having your own opinion and even arguing, its not for anyone to rule by trying to resort to insult! Debate? With you? Your understanding of debate is to repeat ad nauseum your view. This thread is a case in point. Education. But no, you refuse to accept so off you go on yet another of your tiresome crusades about safety. History shows you are on no position to dictate to anyone about safety. Then you resort to your fallback position of assuming i'm hurling insults at you. Don't flatter yourself.
arfur mo Posted November 8, 2013 Posted November 8, 2013 Debate? With you? Your understanding of debate is to repeat ad nauseum your view. This thread is a case in point. Education. But no, you refuse to accept so off you go on yet another of your tiresome crusades about safety. History shows you are on no position to dictate to anyone about safety. Then you resort to your fallback position of assuming i'm hurling insults at you. Don't flatter yourself. and there's me thinking you giving in? BTW i'd check on the spelling of that famous Irish whiskey (hint - no 'i') don't you agree, the correct spelling simply has so a greater impact, especially when attempting to belittle or insult someone after having run out of answers? If you think education is difficult, try being stupid!!!!
sjsturner Posted November 9, 2013 Posted November 9, 2013 Bet OP is well pleased he posted on here... You have to take this at face value i think, either help him or don't but making a 3 page thread about him possibly being a liar and wanting to build a panel that could kill people is silly, I understand your worry arf, but not everyone are morons and crooks and its unfair to assume they are
james.wilson Posted November 9, 2013 Posted November 9, 2013 Id guess its a college or school project, i did the same all be it simpler at school myself. op a full circuit diagram will be hard to find, especially with commercial equipment. Id guess your trying to save yourself some work on the project? securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount.
datadiffusion Posted November 9, 2013 Posted November 9, 2013 I seem to remember a few older panels that virtually had the component level circuit diagram on the lid - I'm guessing because in those days an engineer might actually be expected to make repairs I suppose? Can't tell you which ones though, sorry. Agree a 24V circuit is very hard to find on google, I've just tried. So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands
arfur mo Posted November 9, 2013 Posted November 9, 2013 just like intruder panels where later panels, even simple ones have IC's doing most the work. O/P - if you want item 'A' item to work with item 'B' you need 1st to know understand how item 'A' works, then you design item 'B' to work with item 'A' to it's best ability. While you might well design you control panel sucesfully, if you ignore the above you might find it is incompatible with stock fire detection devices, making it virtually useless. can i suggest, if you wish to dabble in electronics get PC software called 'livewire Pro', ideal for you to learn and/or teach with, and you can alter designs and see the results simulated on screen, even prduce your printed circuit board layouts for production. If you think education is difficult, try being stupid!!!!
Cubit Posted November 9, 2013 Posted November 9, 2013 and there's me thinking you giving in? BTW i'd check on the spelling of that famous Irish whiskey (hint - no 'i') don't you agree, the correct spelling simply has so a greater impact, especially when attempting to belittle or insult someone after having run out of answers? I bet you feel somewhat embarrassed now. just like intruder panels where later panels, even simple ones have IC's doing most the work. O/P - if you want item 'A' item to work with item 'B' you need 1st to know understand how item 'A' works, then you design item 'B' to work with item 'A' to it's best ability. While you might well design you control panel sucesfully, if you ignore the above you might find it is incompatible with stock fire detection devices, making it virtually useless. can i suggest, if you wish to dabble in electronics get PC software called 'livewire Pro', ideal for you to learn and/or teach with, and you can alter designs and see the results simulated on screen, even prduce your printed circuit board layouts for production. Priceless Yesterday you were accusing all and sundry of bad practice. now...... And don't bother accusing me of trouble causing.
matthew.brough Posted November 9, 2013 Posted November 9, 2013 And don't bother accusing me of trouble causing. I'm sure he might . . . www.securitywarehouse.co.uk/catalog/
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