james.wilson Posted January 12, 2016 Posted January 12, 2016 Re modifying a circuit without an rcd, are you sure about that? Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount.
datadiffusion Posted January 12, 2016 Posted January 12, 2016 Working live isn't illegal, but for the sake of not turning off a server may be frowned upon. Best way imo is leave the spur to the customer. As far as I understand from a 'justifiable' point of view, the HSE regard live working as acceptable only in the absence of any realistic alternative. So if you are live working on a fuseboard that is fitted with multiple means of safe isolation, but you don't want to use them 'to avoid pissing off the client' and work live, this would not sit well. For suppliers who have no alternative but to cut into live cables, then of course there isn't a practical alternative. Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands
WDT Posted January 12, 2016 Posted January 12, 2016 Re modifying a circuit without an rcd, are you sure about that? I am sure thats what i got told, ?? am i wrong ?? I was told I was not allowed to add a fuse connection unit to a circuit with not RCD. I can see if i can find the info Quote
RichL Posted January 12, 2016 Posted January 12, 2016 Probably in case any part of the circuit is buried beneath plaster. Quote Originally said by Charles Babbage On two occasions I have been asked [by members of Parliament], 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question.
james.wilson Posted January 12, 2016 Posted January 12, 2016 I'm not saying I'm right I'm only 16th qual but id be suprised Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount.
datadiffusion Posted January 13, 2016 Posted January 13, 2016 I am sure thats what i got told, ?? am i wrong ?? I was told I was not allowed to add a fuse connection unit to a circuit with not RCD. I can see if i can find the info There is no need to 'retrospectively' work to the 17th if, say, you are in a house done to the 15th, 16th etc... A case in point is fusewire type consumer units. The Electrical Safety Council (formerly part of NICEIC) are at pains to point out in a dedicated leaflet that this does NOT mean an installation fails a PITS / EICR just for having one. Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands
WDT Posted January 13, 2016 Posted January 13, 2016 There is no need to 'retrospectively' work to the 17th if, say, you are in a house done to the 15th, 16th etc... A case in point is fusewire type consumer units. The Electrical Safety Council (formerly part of NICEIC) are at pains to point out in a dedicated leaflet that this does NOT mean an installation fails a PITS / EICR just for having one. Oh ok Quote
datadiffusion Posted January 13, 2016 Posted January 13, 2016 (edited) BUT it must still be compliant. So if the existing installation is unsafe, you can't add to it. A classic example is a house with rubber cabling still (very unlikely to see these days) but there were a few still around when Part P first came in and although we probably would have offered a rewire or walked anyway, with Part P you had to say 'no' even if it was just a spur etc... Another good example would be the one I found the other day with everything quite tidy but NO main earth! Edited January 13, 2016 by datadiffusion Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands
norman Posted January 13, 2016 Posted January 13, 2016 Earth is over-rated anyway imo. Quote Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool.
datadiffusion Posted January 22, 2016 Posted January 22, 2016 The guy wondered why he was getting 'tingling' in his hands when he touched the drainer when the dishwasher was on! Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands
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