Fused Spurs

[AlarmScot]

im surprised,i know a lad who worked for a house bashing co doing installs for major builders he was racking the money in doing 3 and 4 first and second fixes a day tho people would rather upgrade the kitchen than have an alarm i agree

 

We do install a lot in new builds but not often via house builder expect one house builder does get commission if they get they can get home owner to  get alarm fitted which I think works well however our sales team go and target the new homes after a few weeks of people moving in.  Which most people do welcome alarm just to feel safer as if you talk about all there new gadgets and how you don't really know your neighbours and how burglar more likely to rob a house without alarm. 

 

Most new builds here have a spur next to mains for the alarm. Cable up to external bell and all wireless. I don't like it but customers expect wireless these days. No part P here and never had a problem.

 

Yea most people do expect Wireless Alarms and I understand that with a new house but again most new houses you can't paint or put much on wall as you need allow the house to settle. 

 

Adding Circuits - We are like other poster,  We get our sparks to come in add a circuit and try get any extra jobs while at it from customer but i unsure what actual rule is as I know company policy is I am not allowed to touch electrics on any property and I must call our sparks however our sparks work for same company so I think its just insurance but I can image it be law as you don't want 'Dodgy Alarm Fitter who thinks he knows what he doing and burns down a house' 

Edited November 11, 2014 by AlarmScot

[Alarm Protection]

Ok Alarmscot. We must work in the same area?

[AlarmScot]

Ok Alarmscot. We must work in the same area?

 

We may well be,  I work for a Scottish firm so most likely. 

[james.wilson]

I work for an English firm. A lot here are in my area too.

[Adi]

Ok James. We must work in the same area?

[petrolhead]

Does a british firm count? A lot are here with me.

[al-yeti]

I in a diff country , but same island as you lot !

[JasonOfOz]

We made the decision to certificate all of our spur installs only so that it covers us and proves to the client we have done our bit properly so there's no come-back down the track.

 

However, what we found the biggest issue to be is locating the breaker on the dist. board.

 

Then sometimes not being sure what else that breaker is hooked up to.

 

All this then takes time because if we are in the Comms Room, we don't want to take down critical servers while we are installing a spur - so need to consider works being done out of hours.

 

I have heard of guys working live but I don't want to waste my life in jail so don't want the risk.

[norman]

Working live isn't illegal, but for the sake of not turning off a server may be frowned upon. Best way imo is leave the spur to the customer.

[WDT]

The local electrician near to me said adding a fuse connection unit is ok as long as you do all the tests and paperwork. He also said he would show me what needed doing.

Which is also what i was told on the tavcom mains compliance training.

I was also told being competant is about showing you have done training and been shown and can show you can do all the tests.

You do need a meggar tester (thats a brand name) fluke also do one

If the site failed the earth test for instance you would need to abort untill a sparky had fixed any faults you found before your install

Adding a new circuit is also sparky land i.e fitting new cable to a new mcb

Also you cannot add to a circuit without a RCD

you have to test the RCD, which you have to test trip's correctly using your slighty expensive new toy (meggar or Fluke others are available)

 

This is all i have been told on a course or in person, I like to listen and make sure what i am going to do i do correctly. I now have a part p tester which is great, I checked my earth and RCD and they work fine so my flat should burn down yet unless i cook something

I suspect sparky's would like to keep doing even minor works as it's money in their pockets not yours