HeatherShep Posted December 11, 2014 Posted December 11, 2014 The answer will always be.... We have a client who has moved to an engineer who has recently left us - under a cloud - so standard procedure, we changed all out engineering codes on the next service visit (which was booked a for a few days after ex employee left). The client is now shouting from the roof tops at how unethical we are as a company because we wont give her our new code ready - for ex employee to take over the system (and any others he can get his grubby hands on no doubt) - I've tried explaining why the codes where changed and the security risks involved etc but to no avail. Is there any legislation I can quote to stop the rants? Any help gratefully received. Quote
datadiffusion Posted December 11, 2014 Posted December 11, 2014 (edited) Change to default code, charge for that visit if required. Any existing contract to be settled as required. Edited December 11, 2014 by MrHappy Topic Split Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands
MrHappy Posted December 11, 2014 Posted December 11, 2014 I give the choice of:- Pay to attend & default, Should they kick off.... send the pcb & keypad to us & we'll default with 10 day turn around Quote Mr Veritas God
sixwheeledbeast Posted December 11, 2014 Posted December 11, 2014 No legislation it all depends on your companies T&C's that the customer is signed up to. I would agree that best to give them the options of charge to factory default the system for the outgoing or they can send you the panel. Also some companies contract of employment are worded so you cannot poach existing customers, maybe worth looking into that. Quote
PeterJames Posted December 11, 2014 Posted December 11, 2014 Why is it unethical to protect your customers? If you have lost the customer to the ex engineer why are you even worrying about it? The customer obviously wasn't worth having to begin with if they are prepared to jump ship to save a tenner. I would tell them the charge for defaulting the system and let them make their minds up. There is nothing they can sue you for, the judge would see it that you have protected the customer from potential sabotage, as their service provider you are obliged to ensure that there is no weak areas. The system can be easily defaulted and reprogrammed by any reputable company if the customer wanted to change service providers Quote
datadiffusion Posted December 11, 2014 Posted December 11, 2014 If you have lost the customer to the ex engineer why are you even worrying about it? The customer obviously wasn't worth having to begin with if they are prepared to jump ship to save a tenner. My thoughts exactly Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands
Dark Mud Posted December 12, 2014 Posted December 12, 2014 If the engineer was any good he would know how to default the codes. We had an instance recently where we were taking over an installation. The engineer code was locked. we asked the existing alarm company to default the code. Sure enough they agreed as long as we paid £500 + VAT up front. I complained to NSI, apparently there is nothing they can do. We paid the £500. Quote
james.wilson Posted December 12, 2014 Posted December 12, 2014 If the engineer was any good he would know how to default the codes. We had an instance recently where we were taking over an installation. The engineer code was locked. we asked the existing alarm company to default the code. Sure enough they agreed as long as we paid £500 + VAT up front. I complained to NSI, apparently there is nothing they can do. We paid the £500. Did the client owe any money or rent the kit? Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount.
sixwheeledbeast Posted December 12, 2014 Posted December 12, 2014 If the engineer was any good he would know how to default the codes. We had an instance recently where we were taking over an installation. The engineer code was locked. we asked the existing alarm company to default the code. Sure enough they agreed as long as we paid £500 + VAT up front. I complained to NSI, apparently there is nothing they can do. We paid the £500. Swapping the controls would have been cheaper? Quote
Simlec Posted December 12, 2014 Posted December 12, 2014 If the engineer was any good he would know how to default the codes. We had an instance recently where we were taking over an installation. The engineer code was locked. we asked the existing alarm company to default the code. Sure enough they agreed as long as we paid £500 + VAT up front. I complained to NSI, apparently there is nothing they can do. We paid the £500. Humm.. the first line said you know what your doing then the rest says you don't lol As said new control panel PCB and eng for the day would have been half the cost. Quote
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