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Hi

 

I live in a place where there is a row of houses, Behind our garden is a place where we all park our cars. I have idiot neighbours who have parties all the time and bring over friends to leave rubbish, vomit, and literally trash the place. I spoke to the people on all the neighbours behalf and I am sure I'm the target. I have people standing behind my fence making noises and when I look around back they are gone. My car has got damaged. There are a lot rubbish at the back of my house. Obviously I cant prove it is them, but it is a coincidence that all these things are happening to me, after having arguments with this particular neighbour. I have asked an CCTV installer to come to install a long range camera with microphone so that I can film who is making nuisance noise at the back of my house.

 

The installer knew all this, and went to buy the camera kit and fitted it. Great night time view and quality of the image. I can see all my garden, and behind my garden, and see my car parked up. So I am not complaining about that. But the guy forgot to buy the camera with a microphone. He said it is illegal to have microphone on the camera and record sound on a surveillance system. Is this right? He has given me the receipt  where he has brought the kit from. He said if I want to return,  I have to pay extra if I want the kit taken down. I would have fought on that, but I really do like the image on the cameras, I wasnt sure if he was telling the truth, and I really dont want to lose time to get another installer in and wait for new cameras kit. I then went to Maplin and they told me to go on Swanns website to speak to their sales team, who told me to buy microphone to put on the camera. 1st- Is the installer right. Is it illegal to have a microphone on the CCTV system? 2- Here is my camera, what microphone do I get. 3- how would I attach the microphone onto the camera? 4- Is there a law that I can use, so that I can get the installer back out to fit on the microphone?

 

link to my camera

http://www.tradexguru.com/outdoor-waterproof-high-powered-nightvision-4-led-ir-array-700-tvl-cctv-security-surveillance-camera-ir-cut-6mm-wide-angle-lens.html

 

Any advice would be great.

 

Sophie

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This is a forum for technical matters, not legal advise, so my advise:

 

1 - No you can record audio. If the camera is on your property, viewing your property you can record pretty much what you like. Commercial properties are somewhat different.

2 - Dont know, not familiar with that kit. It looks like jonny 5 has got loose again.

3 - Again, not familiar.

4 - If he gave you a written quote listing audio as being included, then I would have thought sale of goods act to start with.

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That said the question is about data protection and CCTV

 

Hi Sophie

 

The ico does not like audio recordings with CCTV system besides anything else it also breaks a few privacy laws, and unless your system is fully compliant with the DPA the CCTV would not be admissible in court anyway

 

It sounds like you are having environmental problems you can get more information on what to do here https://www.gov.uk/local-environmental-quality

 

I would swerve the swan kit like my life depended on it.

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Pete looks domestic though so that wouldn't apply?

It would if they want the CCTV to be admissible though. Domestic can do what they like so long as they are not breaking any privacy laws. But if you want the CCTV to used as evidence it has to comply 

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It would if they want the CCTV to be admissible though. Domestic can do what they like so long as they are not breaking any privacy laws. But if you want the CCTV to used as evidence it has to comply

Suppose it depends if you are just trying to demonstrate an above average level of antisocial behaviour to plod / council rather than court as such. Still not the greatest kit though, even by budget standards.

So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands

 

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BIL has had his CCTV used in court, he fitted it himself (to a reasonable std) and has captured lots of ASB, the latest being a neighbour keying another neighbours car, I've seen the footage and it's p poor but plod have taken it to court.

Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool.


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BIL has had his CCTV used in court, he fitted it himself (to a reasonable std) and has captured lots of ASB, the latest being a neighbour keying another neighbours car, I've seen the footage and it's p poor but plod have taken it to court.

with audio?

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