Are you a professional?

[Guest Guest]

I appreciated your comments and went for the Scantronic 9448 panel

I fitted Omnicron 7000 with the dialer approx 8 years ago

I already have 9751 and I was thinking if possible to solder RS232 port

Not exactly the equipment that Pete was on about, but manuals for this low end gear is easy to obtain.

[Guest livewire]

@ alarmguard

Not exactly the equipment that Pete was on about, but manuals for this low end gear is easy to obtain.

Who said I was talking about these panels?Jumping too soon to a conclusion I was more thinking of Galaxy, Menvier and Scantronic more expensive panels...

[morph]

Possibly, but if you make wide sweeping statements, with no back up, people will always form there own conclusion.

In my case I had a look to see what posts you had made previously and based on the information you had asked, formed my conclusion.

[Guest livewire]

Possibly, but if you make wide sweeping statements, with no back up, people will always form there own conclusion.

In my case I had a look to see what posts you had made previously and based on the information you had asked, formed my conclusion.

26494[/snapback]

Ok, that's fair enough.

My point was that one can not be stopped to get the information if they wanted to.

We are in the 21st century and comms have improved so much over last few years, this forum is the real proof of this.

rgds

[secure4]

Hi All,

We'll this topic seems to have wandered a bit in my eyes, but getting back to the original posts, although I am not an alarm installer (cctv) i feel that the giving of help DOES depend very much on the situation.

For example.

A couple of weeks a go a guy contacted me by phone requiring quite a specific system, I spent a good 20 minutes talking to him on the phone and the whole time I had no intention of making any money from him, which will become apparent, well maybe not to some of you unscrupulous ones! To cut the story short he needed a decent day/night camera, remote powered. A family member had had a grave vandalized a couple of times, something that must be very upsetting. He wanted to catch the person/s doing this. So with my knowledge instead of saying give me X amount of dosh and i'll sort you out, I wasn't prepared to make money from someone who was genuinely upset by the situation. So I gave him the knowledge of what he needed to complete the job and even the contact details of where he could get the equipment, even going to the length of making sure he got a decent price from the suppliers. Why, cause thats the kind of guy i am and the kind of business I run!

The greatfullness and thanks that was given by the said person was my payment.

Now flame me if you like if you think I was a mug, I don't care.

All im trying to do is say that there should be no you must not say this or that, it all depends on the situation.

[jb-eye]

Hi All i feel that the giving of help DOES depend very much on the situation.

Agreed

I wasn't prepared to make money from someone who was genuinely upset by the situation.

OK

I gave him the knowledge of what he needed to complete the job and even the contact details of where he could get the equipment, even going to the length of making sure he got a decent price from the suppliers

Flame You & the mug thing

Why, cause thats the kind of guy i am and the kind of business I run!

It wont pay the wages and my guys aren't this nice when i do something for nothing cause thats the kind of guy i am! my lads still want wages holiday pay etc, etc,

All im trying to do is say that there should be no you must not say this or that, it all depends on the situation

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Fine

I think your self employed, am i rite, now theres a diffrence between self employed & being in buisness and you may need to discover this if you want to progress.

Jef

[Brian c]

Maybe a bit harsh Jef?

He hasn't had to physically do any work or put himself out more than a few phonecalls.

Now, when someone speaks to the guy he's helped out, and they need an alarm, etc. Who do you think this guy will recommend?

[jb-eye]

Dont think so Bri

This summer I was out socially with some friends. A barrister, two solicitors, two consultant doctors, one accountant & me (the electrician). The conversation got around to a plumber who had done some heating at one of the solicitor’s homes and in particular how cheap this chap had been in comparison to the other quotes. Quite simply this plumber was the blunt of a lot of Psss taking about how the poor survive. Needless to say I felt a comradeship with the plumber being a tradesman myself. It transpired that another friend had used this mans services also and asked the plumber to be reasonable as he was just opening his own practice and money was tight. The plumber finished the job and asked for 20 quid, this was duly paid. It calculated at £4 per hour. He thought he had done these fellows who were laughing their socks of at him a good turn. My dad is 74 years old he pulls the got no money routine all the time. In his word “the worlds full of mugs

Jef

[Brian c]

You're right Jef, there are too many unscrupulous(?) people in the world just waiting to take advantage of the 'mugs'.(personally, I'd rather call them nice people)

It's entirely down to your own judgement as to wether somone is genuine or not. If you think they are genuine, where's the harm in helping out?

I believe, if you do a good turn for someone that appreciates it, they will return the favour, even if it's just a recommendation.

[jb-eye]

Bri

As i said above Penultimate, I do jobs for nothing and yes you are right what goes round come round we all need to be charitable. The problem is finding who is genuine and who is not my dad isn’t nor are the friends mentioned. I suppose we just have to look out for these people and use our best judgment.

jef