Service Engineer Posted October 9, 2004 Posted October 9, 2004 A couple of weeks a go a guy contacted me by phone requiring quite a specific system, I spent a good 20 minutes talking to him on the phone and the whole time I had no intention of making any money from him, which will become apparent, well maybe not to some of you unscrupulous ones! To cut the story short he needed a decent day/night camera, remote powered. A family member had had a grave vandalized a couple of times, something that must be very upsetting. He wanted to catch the person/s doing this. So with my knowledge instead of saying give me X amount of dosh and i'll sort you out, I wasn't prepared to make money from someone who was genuinely upset by the situation. So I gave him the knowledge of what he needed to complete the job and even the contact details of where he could get the equipment, even going to the length of making sure he got a decent price from the suppliers. Why, cause thats the kind of guy i am and the kind of business I run!The greatfullness and thanks that was given by the said person was my payment. Well Done Secure4, I`d hope given simillar circumstances that most Individuals would have helped out in the same way. ........................................................ Dave Partridge (Romec Service Engineer)
Service Engineer Posted October 9, 2004 Posted October 9, 2004 I have to agree with Jef on this one, in business you need to make a profit just to survive these days.Free advice to one person wont severely damage the profit margins of any business.To install systems properly with fully trained experience staff costs money. If you do stuff for nothing thats all you will end up with.Donating a few minutes of your own time doesnt cost you anything.My advice to the guy with the vandalised grave would be to hide in the bush's with a baseball bat.Bad advice Pete, I`m sure that at 1st most would want to take this route but after thinking about it for a few minutes I`d hope the majority would see sense.Installing a daynight camera wont stop it or catch the vandals.Neither will clubbing them with a baseball bat, all that`ll do is get you locked up.If you want to be charitable subscribe to a charity thats what I do.Being personally charitable is much more rewarding that donating to a charity. ........................................................ Dave Partridge (Romec Service Engineer)
Brian c Posted October 9, 2004 Posted October 9, 2004 Completely agree Dave. I'm hoping you were posting with light heartedness Pete! If you don't know......ask.
Guest Posted October 9, 2004 Posted October 9, 2004 I think that we all agree that good will is nice? Also I think that all agree with the fact that money, even if it is going to be spent in charity, has to be made somehow..? Everybody has made quite good statement by his behalf. I don't know how it is there in the island, but here you can not make money with domestical installations, so it can't either damage anyone's business to give advise to this kind of person who is doing alarms to his/her home. Wouldn't it be somehow acceptable line that we give advise to the people who has to spend their own money? Anyway they have to have service contract if alarms are transmitted to ARC?? I personally, and company I am working for, donate money for veterans. I wouldn't call this as charity, but a nice duty..
Guest RICHL Posted October 9, 2004 Posted October 9, 2004 I don't know how it is there in the island, but here you can not make money with domestical installations, 26683[/snapback] sorry to go off topic briefly, why is that?
Guest Posted October 9, 2004 Posted October 9, 2004 I don't know how it is there in the island, but here you can not make money with domestical installations, 26683[/snapback] sorry to go off topic briefly, why is that? 26690[/snapback] Due to Securitas and Falck.. Or does 300
norman Posted October 9, 2004 Posted October 9, 2004 Dont think so BriThis summer I was out socially with some friends. A barrister, two solicitors, two consultant doctors, one accountant & me (the electrician). The conversation got around to a plumber who had done some heating at one of the solicitor Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool.
jb-eye Posted October 9, 2004 Author Posted October 9, 2004 Dont think so BriThis summer I was out socially with some friends. A barrister, two solicitors, two consultant doctors, one accountant & me (the electrician). The conversation got around to a plumber who had done some heating at one of the solicitor’s homes and in particular how cheap this chap had been in comparison to the other quotes. Quite simply this plumber was the blunt of a lot of Psss taking about how the poor survive. Needless to say I felt a comradeship with the plumber being a tradesman myself. It transpired that another friend had used this mans services also and asked the plumber to be reasonable as he was just opening his own practice and money was tight. The plumber finished the job and asked for 20 quid, this was duly paid. It calculated at £4 per hour. He thought he had done these fellows who were laughing their socks of at him a good turn. My dad is 74 years old he pulls the got no money routine all the time. In his word “the worlds full of mugs Jef 26631[/snapback] Friends!! 26697[/snapback] I Know , thought about that when i typed it. maybee thats why i enjoy this site, reminds me of the good old days with all the banter Jef Customers!
Guest Posted October 10, 2004 Posted October 10, 2004 Cant' get a gaxaly manual? Menvier emailed my client a TS790/900 eng. book after he moaned at them. Still could not get is head round it
Brian c Posted October 10, 2004 Posted October 10, 2004 Just found this in the EN regs. It's pretty unclear to me. On one hand, it's saying that "Information shall be provided sufficient to install, put into operation, operate and maintain the intruder alarm system." i.e an engineering manual should be provided. On the other hand it says"Instructions relating to the operation of the intruder alarm system shall be designed to minimise the possibility of incorrect operation and be structured to reflect the access level of the user." i.e an engineering manual should not be provided Is it just me?, Am I going daft(er)? Or can no-one else make sense of it either? 14 Documentation14.1 Intruder alarm system documentation Documentation relating to the intruder alarm system shall be concise, complete and unambiguous. Information shall be provided sufficient to install, put into operation, operate and maintain the intruder alarm system. Instructions relating to the operation of the intruder alarm system shall be designed to minimise the possibility of incorrect operation and be structured to reflect the access level of the user. 14.2 Intruder alarm system component documentation Documentation relating to intruder alarm system components shall be concise, complete and unambiguous. The documentation shall be sufficient to ensure the correct installation, putting into operation and maintenance of the intruder alarm system component. Sufficient information shall be provided to ensure the integration of the component with any other intruder alarm system component. Component documentation shall include the following: ± name of manufacturer or supplier; ± description of equipment; ± standard to which component claims compliance; ± *name or mark of the certification body; ± security grade; ± environmental class. * If certified. If you don't know......ask.
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