Arf-Gef Posted May 3, 2015 Author Posted May 3, 2015 (edited) depends on the panel but its prescribed. highest value i knew of castle with 13k. id assume you have misread? Nope I just re-cheked to be sure. Satel Versa installer manual version 1.03 pg19 (Chapeter 3.6) (In case you find an english version) The value of closing resitance in EOL and 2EOL loops is programmable between 500 Ohm and 15KOhm. I'd snap a picture but it's not in english. @Yeti: Thanks for the insight @Vince: Mine didn't include any resistors, but I called satel and it's supposed to have included 2.2k Ohms 5% ones and 1.1k Ohms 5% ones. So I think I'll go with those. Why two types btw? Now I'm confuesd again: goes in the PIR in eol? Or is it just so I can wire up 2 in one zone with different resitance values? Edited May 3, 2015 by Arf-Gef Quote
james.wilson Posted May 3, 2015 Posted May 3, 2015 programmable is different. Values are pre described no point in having a loose eol value i guess from what you say there are choices? Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount.
Arf-Gef Posted May 3, 2015 Author Posted May 3, 2015 I seeNot sure on the answer to your question TBH, I'm only at the very beginning of the learning curve. All I know is what I gathered from Satel's site, descriptions and the manuals. The only other place I found resistance values in the installation manual is where it describes that with CA-64 E and CA-64EPS types of zone expansion sets I should use the 1.1 Ohm in dEOL and 2.2 in EOL setup, but not mention of what should be used apart from the afore mentioned wide gap. Quote
Vince8282 Posted May 3, 2015 Posted May 3, 2015 It looks like a) you can program the resistor values for wireless detectors and b) for hard wired you use the resistors provided. Using the values given for the different configuration. The fig 27 is the one that I would choose and the resistor values are the same for both the tamper and the alarm i.e. 1.1K therefore R1 and R2 are both 1.1K The different values that you are given is because they show another configuration in fig 26 where only one resistor is used and the value of that is 2.2K And the fun part All VERSA series control panels ensure very easy programming and activation. This results from well-thought-out factory settings and clear programming menus displayed on LCD screens. Additionally, VERSA control panels may be even more easily programmed by means of a computer operating the DLOADX program supported by Windows operating systems My personal view is that despite the technological advances made in the wireless alarm industry I am so old fashioned that I would never touch one with a barge pole, except for fun and entertainment value Quote Practice in the morning, practice at night. Practice in the evening, until you get it right. Only make sure you are practising in the right way at the right time for it.
Vince8282 Posted May 3, 2015 Posted May 3, 2015 Just a comment on the wide range of resistance values the below quote should clear it up SATEL VERSA 33 Notes : • The sum of values programmed for the resistors R1 and R2 may not be lower than 500 Ω or higher than 15 k Ω . • In case of the zone expander, it is possible to program the value 0 for the resistor R2. The 2EOL wiring type requires that two resistors be used, each having resistance equal to half the value defined f or the resistor R1. • In the EOL wiring type , the resistance value is equal to the sum of values programmed for the resistors R1 and R2 To put it another way A reading of less than 500 ohms will give a short circuit tamper and a reading of over 15K will give a high resistance tamper. Quote Practice in the morning, practice at night. Practice in the evening, until you get it right. Only make sure you are practising in the right way at the right time for it.
al-yeti Posted May 4, 2015 Posted May 4, 2015 This all starting to look more like a sales pitch ? Quote
Arf-Gef Posted May 4, 2015 Author Posted May 4, 2015 ohh, I understand now Vince, thank you for clearing that well I'm not affiliated with any maker of alarms Quote
Arf-Gef Posted May 4, 2015 Author Posted May 4, 2015 Oh, now I think I udnerstand why you said it looks like a sales pitch. I've been asking about satels because I got a satel panel with sensors and I'm curious about them. And as I learn more and more I sometimes run into questions, and if I can't find the answer I ask it I don't recommend satels, I don't not recommend them. I'm curious because I wish to learn more by reading up and playing with the panel.Plus why would it be a sales pitch? I don't think a newbie asking questions about it is the best way to advertise a product :D Quote
al-yeti Posted May 4, 2015 Posted May 4, 2015 Not you arf lol I didn't really mean anything by it You need to stick the panel on a bench with sensors and play with system is probably best way Quote
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