Getting Sick Of People Installing Cheap Wireless Alarm Systems

[norman]

No problem, I didn't take it personally. Not sure what I'd recommend as 'future proof' but I think you need to 1st decide on your kit of choice and then explain to the customer the benefits of it.

Easier to be a specialist that way instead of a jack of all fitting what the customer wants, after all you are the expert, not them.

[sixwheeledbeast]

While I agree one way cheap wireless is pants, the argument on wired being future proof is slightly flawed.

You don't know what tech will be like in the future?

[al-yeti]

Honeywell still solid commercial panel, but it's falling behind for residential fast

[matt6697]

Totally agreed!, but do you see where im coming from in terms of future maintenance? say honeywell discontinued there wireless detectors for the galaxy 2 you would not be totally stuck as you can still add wired detectors to the system, or they could alternatively bring out a new RF module?.  But say you have a system with limited numbers of wired zones and a one that does not include the flexibility for upgrade modules then the client would have to get a whole new system, there's also the cost of parts to be considered a wireless external sounder is around £100, but wired is like £25 

 

Also doesn't this leave the industry becoming more widely open to DIY people saying they're engineers?

[matt6697]

I think the only way to push this problem out is by providing clients with maintenance contracts on all wired systems, so parts and labor are included!.  

 

This means the client would overall benefit from saving money and it also puts a stop to jo blogs coming in!

Not only this you as the installer are securing your jobs!, say you charged X amount a year per client & multiply it by say 5 years, that's a nice tidy profit the clients happy & your happy and keeps a constant flow of work coming in!

[PeterJames]

Not only this they're taking work from me by saying they will call emergency services from a telephone dialler system that calls them? is this legal??

 

if it calls an ARC and the installer is SSAIB or NSI but its Digi not dialer​ then yes. The Police will not accept non confirmed signals though

[justin]

I detest wireless intruder alarms. It's a shame many new engineers are not having the opportunity to learn how to wire systems in all the different building types and environments many of us have been used to over the years. I came across a scantronic radio system last month. A rear fire door was being taken out and replaced by builders. I was to disconnect the contact and fit on new door. I was late onsite and the builders had already finished and taken the door away. The panel showed no response to it disappearing!

[Nova-Security]

if it calls an ARC and the installer is SSAIB or NSI but its Digi not dialer​ then yes. The Police will not accept non confirmed signals though

 

Not quite right.