Adi Posted February 19, 2005 Posted February 19, 2005 12v Intruder Alarm devices do not count as they are SELV as stated by Lurch, telephone cabling is ELV (98v when ringing) and mains cabling obviously counts. PIRs in Kitchens and garages arent restricted by Part PBasically only spur off EXISTING circuits but NOT in Kitchens or Bathrooms. Do NOT run telephone cable through Kitchens or Bathrooms. For some mad reason you can spur off an existing ring at a consumer unit, but if there is a spare breaker you must not connect into that because it would be creating a new circuit. 41095[/snapback] Mad reason, your not joking. The best way all round would be to use the spare way. A brand new circuit is gonna be bang on with all tests and be better for the alarm. I really can't be ar**** with it anymore.
Guest Posted February 19, 2005 Posted February 19, 2005 Mad reason, your not joking. The best way all round would be to use the spare way. A brand new circuit is gonna be bang on with all tests and be better for the alarm. 41105[/snapback] You could just ignore Part P and give it the old "it was like that when I got here guv". Bit of a giveaway if you use the sheath of the alarm cable as earth sleeving though.
Guest Chewie Posted February 21, 2005 Posted February 21, 2005 Thats ok if you have got some stock of the old coloured cable. Just wired my spur for the alarm on its own 6amp mcb. Had to use the new grey T&E, could not get the white.
Guest Posted February 21, 2005 Posted February 21, 2005 Eh? What's this white\grey you're on about? You could get harmonised colours at the beginning of last year so the colour of your cables doesn't actually point to a particular time of installation other than sometime within the last 12 months.
Guest Chewie Posted February 21, 2005 Posted February 21, 2005 Good point, I was thinking that the new colours coincided with part P, which of course they don't. Would have made a lot more sense if they did though.
breff Posted February 21, 2005 Posted February 21, 2005 Agreed Chewie, then it would be easy to tell if something was done before or after Part P. As it is at the moment anyone can say that work was carried out in late 2004 before Part P Like my kitchen and bathroom The opinions I express are mine and are usually correct! (Except when I'm wrong)(which I'm not)
Guest Karl Posted March 22, 2005 Posted March 22, 2005 I've been looking into registering for this Part P & becoming a 'competant person' & from what I understand the cost is intially £500 - £600 to become registered & then around £350 per year there after. Is this correct or is there another course I can take where there is no yearly charge to pay. I fit alot of outside security lights & so will require Part P to carry on with this, as ANY electrical work done outside comes under the scope of Part P (I think ?). Have many of you out there in Alarmland become registered, & if so, how much did you pay & who are you registered with ? (I have no electrical qualifications, but have been in the alarm trade for 18 years.) Sorry about all the questions, but I am looking for guidance.
Guest Chewie Posted March 22, 2005 Posted March 22, 2005 I was under the impression that part P only covered outside installations if there was any exposed cable, if the cable goes straight into the back of the light fitting then you are ok. Don't quote me on this though, just something I read somewhere.
jb-eye Posted March 22, 2005 Author Posted March 22, 2005 I was under the impression that part P only covered outside installations if there was any exposed cable, if the cable goes straight into the back of the light fitting then you are ok. Don't quote me on this though, just something I read somewhere. 45267[/snapback] Chewie download the document thats why its on here.Jef Customers!
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