jkno Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 I stumbled across this article the other day (sorry if it's already been posted/discussed) http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2014-07/24/home-alarm-hacking With computing technology improving at an insane rate and top of the range cars being stolen off peoples drives with nothing more than a laptop. Does anyone question the security of wireless alarm systems and the longevity of the security process in place on these systems? If BMW/Land Rover etc.. spend millions on wireless key encryption methods surely we need to question if any current wireless alarm technology will be hackable by nothing more than a 15 year old kid with a laptop with a fast GPU and internet connection in a few years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Already possible at the Yale end of the marker, search for cybergibbons. Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 cyber gibbons, Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkno Posted July 22, 2015 Author Share Posted July 22, 2015 Interesting read from cyber gibbons. However it doesn't cover the effect of technology evolving but the alarm panels remaining in place on the same technology. Un-stealable cars 5 years ago are being driven off peoples drives with a basic laptop and software download off the internet because of wireless keys. How long is it before the same is happening on homes/businesses. I guess it comes down to cost vs value. Crooks aren't going to invest huge amounts of time and money to break protocols that don't guarantee them a high return on investment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 I thought the article was quite clear about the unmodified commodity wireless chipsets used in cheap alarms being easily hackable? Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 All the while I have worked in electronic security, we have stayed one step ahead of the criminals, burglars used to disable main, so batteries for stand by were added, bells were ripped of walls, so anti tamper and self actuating bells were developed, sounders and bells used to get filled with foam, so anti foam boxes were developed, wires were cut and shorted together in lofts, so eol was developed, detectors obscured, anti mask was developed. As soon as a loophole is discovered its closed. But as a technical person myself, I can see the weaknesses in non wireless systems let alone wireless, wireless systems to anyone with basic electronic skills and some inside knowledge is vulnerable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 wadr, the above scenario's are all one step behind... Quote Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 wadr, the above scenario's are all one step behind... meh! we still shut the door after the horse bolted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie6 Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 No disrespects intended Admin 2,,I have seen all these 'innovations' introduced including the 'anti foam' false alarming continually in high winds. EOL is not a particularly new technology, nonetheless, I would invite anyone to bypass my twelve core, or eight core for that matter, conventional wiring without sounding the alarm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 if someone wants to they will, wires are easier to attack assuming there is access to them, if access then id prefer double pole as thats easier to defeat. Next is eol. I couldnt even start to defeat a wireless system and would go for attacking the comms Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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