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It's just I've got a job with this panel, everything seems to be working fine apart from the external sounder, noticed last guy wrote down the ext sounder battery was dead, looks like hes also close looped the tamper, & cable used is only a 4 core one!

 

tested system, with power disconnect, and battery disconnect ext sounder doesn't work on either 

Edited by matt6697
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Which External sounder are  you using, It is still possible to use four core provided you link out terminals at the sounder. Have you attempted the obvious and tried a known good sounder at floor level before condemning the existing sounder ? 

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Power/battery disconnect would only determine whether the existing sounder can activate from it's own battery. You could also try 'tripping' the sounder at the panel with a negative. If it's not tripping from the panel I would hazard that a new sounder may be required (subject to inspection of the sounder obviously !!).

Edited by charlie6
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I tried setting the alarm off to still no look, but managed to find a pcb schematic from the same makers and looks similar.  I think I know how I got confused now the system has a separate external tamper also which is right next to the ext sounder tamper which has a balancing resistor connected, also has bell outputs but theres no strobe connection? thus the reason why only a 4 core cables been used?, and yeh think its a CP42/03


and yeh gd point cause if you trip it will work like a sound bomb!


Do you know the sounder connections by any chance?, if you could maybe tell me them would really help just the labeling on the pcb is totally different to what you get now! 

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basically cause i had no manual i thought that the external tamper was for the ext sounder tamper, and this was closed looped. and the connection next to it was for something else, as the global tamper was using a zone

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The 'balancing resistor' should be 470 ohm (open to comment) in series with tamper return. It is common (well almost !) to separate global tamper from warning device tamper since were this not the case then a tamper fault at say a passive would give rise to a tamper fault at the sounder, again open to comment. You are correct that global should be reserved for zones (exceptions apply). Before going any further though, why not try a known good sounder at floor level as previously mentioned.

I can give you the panel to sounder connections for a CP4203 but realistically you need to give me the existing connections (don't remove any wiring) at the sounder in order to 'marry them up'.

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