Starting Up

[al-yeti]

Well charge some extras ? Get contract with not everything included in small print, or they don't work that way?

[petercts]

Hi   what is wrong with our trade, why is it last man to quote for a system commercial or domestic,  always want's  to beat the cheapest  price  and fit the cheapest wire free system they can buy bells only or speach dialer. 

 

Only for the customer to find out the sytem does not meet insurance requirement's or extra works are required and do not start me off with the  hidden call out charges

 

 This hurt's all of the industry who install grade 2 or 3 sytems with a central station connection

 

I have been installing security systems for many years, [38 years i had not realised it was that long until i had to fill out my employmant history recently] .

 

remember  you install a system you fit one way radio junk

 

thanks peter

[al-yeti]

Customers all think wireless all the rage, it has its place , but look how many bigger companies follow suit , small install charge , fit junk Aslong as the movement get there monhly charge

On a side note in China some group called Falun Gong spiritual movement has been banned since 1999 declared as an evil cult, couldn't work out why strange group

[petercts]

yes wireless works if the detectors are 2 way radio and you can fit redcare  as in texecom  who would risk  a digi now days, but it is not cheap . talking of a large company  and extra  works  i recently removed a system on a double shop  that did not have enough detectors fitted to confirm an activation   remember recurring revenue is king and do not forget  the multi year maint contract and the baliffs if they want to break the contract early and to put it in the shop owner name as well

[james.wilson]

your thinking of going alone?

[petercts]

done that and lost the t shirt , happy to be a worker bee now let somebody else have the stress and to just work for day rate  these are my observations over the years and working with several people who  got very rich by takeovers and cutting costs and to reach the magic number of connections so they can sit back and not have to chase every job just to pay the wages

[Rob Kirk]

Everyone has to start their business somewhere, so with all the flaming my last post was getting (i assume it was me) Please tell me how i am meant to start up without fitting gear that will end up costing the same as every other company is charging. I feel i need to undercut for now to get a start and a customer base going. I make sure all my customers are happy and have a grade 2 reliable alarm (yes i know some houses require grade 3). I mainly fit wireless one way at the moment (queue flamage) but plan to move to pyronix or hkc very soon, all I'm saying is its hard to start with pricey gear when leafleting/marketing a new company. See how many calls you get when selling at normal prices with a new business leafleting like I'm doing...Yes its hurting the industry if everyone was at it but i dont plan to do it forever. What is hurting the industry is people with absouloutley no idea cold calling fitting yales from a car. Wireless is here to stay and dont get me wrong i plan to fit wired/hybrid more soon but its tonnes easier for me atm to fit wireless. I just wanted to start like this see the response and then go up.

 

Flame away guys :/  

[james.wilson]

It's not just you someone else will soon be around undercutting you, then realise they can't make it pay and go back to working for a firm they were undercutting before.

[goncall]

split trade thread required 

[petercts]

I AM NOT HAVING A GO

 

if somone wants to fit wirless house alarms  thats great i am pointng out that if you only earn a small profit from each job thats great but in the end  someone will do it for cost + £50 POUNDS in the end everybody has a choice

 

the recurring revenue point is this how lots of companies survive