james.wilson Posted February 18, 2016 Posted February 18, 2016 I think it should stay public. Plus if its hidden away nothing will be done about it. At least this way you can say to clients that xyz product is a bad idea due to the issues discussed, publically and trade on TSI. This isnt the only place its discussed not even on this site. Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount.
ElecTech Posted February 18, 2016 Posted February 18, 2016 (edited) LOL riiiiiight.... Thanks for the clarification guys Edited February 18, 2016 by ElecTech Quote
james.wilson Posted February 18, 2016 Posted February 18, 2016 LOL riiiiiight.... Thanks for the clarification guys anytime Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount.
ElecTech Posted February 18, 2016 Posted February 18, 2016 (edited) On a serious, what if an unauthorised person access's one of your DVR's that you maintain from reading this? Your responsible and you wouldn't want it to happen, so at least limit the viewing numbers... It would just be like accessing an alarm with the engineer code... no?  Pissing in the wind comes to mind right about now.... Edited February 18, 2016 by ElecTech Quote
al-yeti Posted February 18, 2016 Posted February 18, 2016 No, engineer code, is mostly on-site alarms and doesn't bring up a menu screen when connected ,unless you know the make perhaps DVR do bring up menu , but again who cares on low end budget bought with not much else on the network Of course the £300 brigade installing in our local businesses will be causing problems , but again you want to pay for rubbish then its what you will get I eat waffles for breakfast I don't actually know what your on about Elec ? Quote
james.wilson Posted February 18, 2016 Posted February 18, 2016 On a serious, what if an unauthorised person access's one of your DVR's that you maintain from reading this? Your responsible and you wouldn't want it to happen, so at least limit the viewing numbers... It would just be like accessing an alarm with the engineer code... no?  Pissing in the wind comes to mind right about now.... no I see that if your security system you provide is used to compromise other networks, ie people working from home for talk talk, Barclays whoever. Does any of us carry enough insurance when it happens and its a supplied and maintained bit of kit. I was concerned about the signalling gear than this. But do understand liability. Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount.
sixwheeledbeast Posted February 18, 2016 Posted February 18, 2016 On a serious, what if an unauthorised person access's one of your DVR's that you maintain from reading this? Your responsible and you wouldn't want it to happen, so at least limit the viewing numbers... It would just be like accessing an alarm with the engineer code... no?  Pissing in the wind comes to mind right about now....  IMO this is going way off topic, but...  You keep referring this to the same as "engineers codes", most seem to agree this is not the case.  If any professional in the trade was fitting cheap DVR's shown as examples here, they won't be worried and neither will the customer.  I don't know what you believe trade areas of the forum are for but there are no "engineers codes" shared on this site, trade or public. Quote
ElecTech Posted February 19, 2016 Posted February 19, 2016 No, engineer code, is mostly on-site alarms and doesn't bring up a menu screen when connected ,unless you know the make perhaps DVR do bring up menu , but again who cares on low end budget bought with not much else on the network Of course the £300 brigade installing in our local businesses will be causing problems , but again you want to pay for rubbish then its what you will get I eat waffles for breakfast I don't actually know what your on about Elec ? I'm merely making the point that the site now shows back doors to any CCTV system in the public arena, if that's what EVERYONE agrees with then fantastic but I don't agree with it and that's my opinion. And that's what a forum is all about... opinions... It's hardly off topic debating if "the topic" is sensitive or not. Do we start a thread "the below thread - sensitive or not" not sure? no I see that if your security system you provide is used to compromise other networks, ie people working from home for talk talk, Barclays whoever. Does any of us carry enough insurance when it happens and its a supplied and maintained bit of kit. I was concerned about the signalling gear than this. But do understand liability. No but your system will be ran through the mud and how funny if they got the info to do it from your own site... And it's not just the £300 brigade as mentioned above... The "expensive" DVRs can carry the same issue. Quote
PeterJames Posted February 20, 2016 Posted February 20, 2016 Lets look at the facts here potentially a system that we have sold and installed could allow some clever nerdy spotty oik in his bedroom to hack into our customers bank account and withdraw money un noticed, with no chance of anyone finding out it was him? I think this is unlikely but not impossible. Some clever hacker could possibly do it though, the risk of getting caught is high but so is the potential reward. Â I think there is a duty of care, potentially a cheap DVR not set up properly is like a trojan horse. The problem as I see it is that Andy has pointed out this fact to us, by rights we should be in the very least informing customers of the potential threat, and advising that they should put there CCTV system on its own VPN. Those of us that fit CCTV thats not already on a VPN. Quote
Nova-Security Posted February 20, 2016 Posted February 20, 2016 Should this not be in trade? Quote www.nova-security.co.uk www.nsiapproved.co.uk No PMs please unless i know you or you are using this board with your proper name.
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