james.wilson Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 It has to be wiring if it was panel we would get loads of returns which we don't the optima has a very low return rate and then its usually because its been wired wrong and blown Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruceyc Posted February 28, 2016 Author Share Posted February 28, 2016 (edited) I agree - and thought the same thing, but I am pretty handy and convinced it's wired right. After all it's hard to wire a staple, a door sensor and a PIR wrongly! I also find the other forum link very interesting - it's EXACTLY the same issue. Also - it works fine using just 2 zones and the door sensors in series as the entry which tells me that everything is working ok. It's bizarre. ANy chance you could check with Honeywell and see what they say? Edited February 28, 2016 by bruceyc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 id say you have a cross voltage between the 2 circuits. Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruceyc Posted February 28, 2016 Author Share Posted February 28, 2016 (edited) But I can't have. That wouldn't contunually trigger another used circuit whenever zone 2 was triggered would it?? Zone 2 is just a PIR. Zone 1 is just a magnetic door switch. Zone 3 had a staple in it. Zone 2 triggering made zone 3 look open on walk testing. That's just plain weird. The only possible answers to me are the programming (like the other forum issue) or a bell box compatability issue - though I struggle to see how a bell box would cause the symptoms with the zones unless I am missing something. Edited February 28, 2016 by bruceyc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 no it wouldn't (bellbox) on a walk test. But I do think it isn't a panel issue run a temp new cable to the 2 devices bet it doesn't continue I think its external Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruceyc Posted February 28, 2016 Author Share Posted February 28, 2016 Will try it - thanks. So you're thinking there's a nipped / shorted cable in there somewhere? I checked the resistance on both door switches and they are fine. The only issue could be with the PIR wiring then?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 check the resistance between the 2 circuit wires too Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruceyc Posted February 28, 2016 Author Share Posted February 28, 2016 They are completely separate wires and also I eliminated that issue by removing the door switch wiring and putting a staple in. The door switch wiring wasn't connected in any way to the alarm and it did the eact same thing. 5 hours I spent replacing a flippin' panel ARGHH!! The problem occurs when I have Zone 1 on just a pair to the switch and the PIR wired in as normal as an inhibited zone. Evrey single time the PIR triggers, it triggers the other zone in use - even with a staple in and no wiring anywhere near the PIR circuit. Its got me compleetly baffled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 If a panel swap, are you saying you can see all the cable routes on the surface so know they are individual? And no joints etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruceyc Posted February 28, 2016 Author Share Posted February 28, 2016 (edited) yep - becasue they are all visible and I removed the trunking covers to check - totally separate. Just a cable to door 1, one to door 2, one to PIR and one to bell box. No joints. I even went to the extent of pulling the back door one right out becasue it was the only one I couldn't full see. It was fine, no joints and just using one pair as you'd expect. All in tact and tested with a circuit tester. Edited February 28, 2016 by bruceyc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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