Pyronix Homecontrol+ vs Visonic Powermax vs Texecom

[1animal1]

Regards the bells - I am connecting up an X-BE bell, wired. So I assume i connect this up as per normal - tamper ring, strobe and bell negative returns and the 12v feed.... I am also connecting an Odyssey wireless - let the system learn this device as usual. 

 

My question is (assuming everything above is ok) - Would i bother to assign them as SAB and SCB respectively? I gather not as the current draw from the panel is no longer an issue, given that one of the devices is wireless. 

 

If i were to ever convert this to wired for the second box - I assume the SAB/SCB is a switch option inside the bell box itself?

 

[datadiffusion]

SCB can sometimes, very occasionally be of use, I've used it precisely zero times in 20 years!

If I'm ever fitting 2 SABs because of low bell height, chance of attracting neighbours at the back etc... then I just up the PSU.

 

Yes wireless bell is, well, just that so no settings to worry about.

If you have a single wired bell, SAB is the way to go.

[MrHappy]

3 hours ago, 1animal1 said:

Noted.... £23.50 for what? 

 

well £28.99 inc vat is the price difference between buying the ebay item & buying it on a 14 day offer at "trade price"

 

So for premium of £28.99 I can have upto 48 days credit & pop into my local branch & collect stock or normally next working day if not in branch stock...

 

 

[1animal1]

21 minutes ago, datadiffusion said:

SCB can sometimes, very occasionally be of use, I've used it precisely zero times in 20 years!

If I'm ever fitting 2 SABs because of low bell height, chance of attracting neighbours at the back etc... then I just up the PSU.

 

Yes wireless bell is, well, just that so no settings to worry about.

If you have a single wired bell, SAB is the way to go.

Is SCB simply a switch option then in the box?

5 minutes ago, MrHappy said:

 

well £28.99 inc vat is the price difference between buying the ebay item & buying it on a 14 day offer at "trade price"

 

So for premium of £28.99 I can have upto 48 days credit & pop into my local branch & collect stock or normally next working day if not in branch stock...

 

 

I've always assumed there was a good mark up - not least because when i was about to buy a Pyronix system, the chap was able to supply 2x new pirs and 2x door contacts for £65.... Where as i don't need to tell you the online cost. 

[datadiffusion]

7 minutes ago, 1animal1 said:

Is SCB simply a switch option then in the box?

 

Yes, usually. Or a wire link, or jumper etc...

 

Though I note with the very latest Elmdene Quartz backplates (the bells I use) we have gained an NiMh battery (rather than NiCad), lost a xenon tubed strobe and gained an LED strobe, and lost SAB/SCB mode altogether...

Edited November 2, 2016 by datadiffusion

[1animal1]

That's interesting - presume big drop in the draw with the LED alone over xenon... 

[datadiffusion]

I think the loss of SCB is because no-one is using it. The LED probably takes about the same as the strobe did tbh.

[1animal1]

I always thought xenon strobes needed a larger capacitor to provide the end required light compared to an equivalent LED? - used to be a lighting engineer moons ago 

[datadiffusion]

Flash rate was less than 1Hz though, and no doubt they've not held back on the freq. nor current rating of the LEDs, 6 @ 20mA even will be similar.

 

Strobe was always guesstimated at 80-120mA AFAIK on a system, same as a keypad tbh.

 

https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Technical/DataSheets/Ade/TSRESON8_Install.pdf for an example

[1animal1]

It's not huge then...probably as you say, deleted through lack of use.