Replacement panel/keypad recommendations

[datadiffusion]

48 minutes ago, antinode said:

The Abacus was a good, reliable system for its time. The Accenta has always been somewhere near the bottom end of the market, although it's reliable enough. I would look at the Galaxy G2-20, 12 zones onboard, easy to use. If you buy contacts and PAs with built in resistors it would be a straightforward swap (your Pyronix detectors will already have them built in, just fit the relevant jumper links and alter the wiring slightly) Don't forget a new 7ah battery.

 

Out of interest, where did you put the splitters with the Abacus system? If they're near the panel, it's easy enough to make the existing cabling work with most systems, but if you've put them "in the field" so to speak and only run a 6 core to the splitter, you may not have enough cores for the system to work properly with something like the Accenta.

 

I would have thought that as a splitter effectively needed 4 wires (it was still alarm + tamper pairs to the splitter - right?) a simple conversion to EOL will solve that issue regardless of the splitter location.

(Note you would have to have the 2 panics on one zone, I usually hate zone sharing but would forgive it for a latching PA on a bells only domestic)

 

So, yes OP, 8 EOL zones sounds fine, but that's why I would forget the Gen4 though. Personally I would recommend a 9651EN or similar 'proper' EOL type 8 zones LCD panel.

 

EOL is where you can get alarm AND tamper over a single pair of two wires to each detector.

Edited July 8, 2017 by datadiffusion

[Griffmaster]

Splitters are adjacent to the panel in the loft so other than maybe some cable extensions. wiring otherwise should be OK.

 

What would the Accent initial setup be like versus Galaxy, similar to Abacus?

 

Edited July 8, 2017 by Griffmaster
Edit: From memory wired the lot using 6 core.

[datadiffusion]

OP, I really would forget the Accenta. It's TAT.

 

A 9651EN or a Euro Mini (at a push a Gal - I would  good panel but not so easy for DIY) would be far more similar to the Abacus, which at least was a professional panel.

Edited July 8, 2017 by datadiffusion

[al-yeti]

Firemonk you need to stick to fire

[Simlec]

Just buy a Pyronix Euro Mini Prox as this will do everything you need at a good price.

[james.wilson]

i like the accenta. Solid reliable bit of kit imo

yes its bottom end but for diy its better than yale etc

[Simlec]

5 minutes ago, james.wilson said:

i like the accenta. Solid reliable bit of kit imo

yes its bottom end but for diy its better than yale etc

But well out of date now, its had its time and place just like the Tex veritas.

[datadiffusion]

2 hours ago, james.wilson said:

i like the accenta. Solid reliable bit of kit imo

yes its bottom end but for diy its better than yale etc

 

I couldn't recommend any panel that only has a single tamper loop and/or no EOL if I'm honest, and it doesn't natively support LCD keypads either.

[antinode]

6 hours ago, datadiffusion said:

 

I would have thought that as a splitter effectively needed 4 wires (it was still alarm + tamper pairs to the splitter - right?) a simple conversion to EOL will solve that issue regardless of the splitter location.

3 cores between the panel zone being split and the splitter. As I said, would be a problem swapping to an Accenta if the splitter was feeding, say, two PIRs. Obviously not an issue with a decent panel.

 

Not a big fan of the 9651, but someone mentioned the Euromini (totally forgot), which is great and gives you 10 zones.

[datadiffusion]

Yep there are plenty of choices, but the Accenta wouldn't be one of mine