Gardtec 800 having problems

[al-yeti]

6 minutes ago, Steve Jones said:

Going to try and keep the existing alarm working until I can afford a gardtec 600 or similar...just the panel and two keypads...

 

just powered down my 800 and attempted to default codes

master code now at default but entering default eng code does not bring up an engineer message

i changed the engineer code from that provided, many years ago, but somehow the system ‘ forgot it ‘

so can’t be locked I assume ?

 

thanks any ideas please ?

600 kit to expensive?

[Steve Jones]

.?? How much for a panel and two keypads, I have no idea......and a typical install time and hourly rate....

 

My electrician friend has changed his mind, have two alarm installers local, but they very seldom reply to emils

 

could do with a recommendation in Essex SS8 area

[WDT]

Did you LOCK the engineer code so it could not be defaulted? Most panels this can be done

[PeterJames]

5 minutes ago, Steve Jones said:

.?? How much for a panel and two keypads, I have no idea......and a typical install time and hourly rate....

 

My electrician friend has changed his mind, have two alarm installers local, but they very seldom reply to emils

 

could do with a recommendation in Essex SS8 area

If we were in your area we would supply and install (We only install equipment we supplied because of warranty issues that may arise ) for around £550 plus VAT for a Gtec 600 or about £490.00 plus vat for a Gtec CP8 prices approx. The labour value in the prices quoted would be £175 half a day one man, this would be our minimum charge for a panel change as we are £99.00 per hr non contract, two or three hours is more expensive than half a day. 

[Steve Jones]

Thanks for the info and prices....is everyone agreed the 600 is the way to go ?

  8  PIR’s

  8  Smoke detectors 

  3 door contacts

  

Defaulted the system reset the master code, now changed to one I will remember ..but  engineer not doing anything...I have never locked the engineer code

 

I have used the one I changed it to several years ago without problem, then one day it was gone...

 

is there a jumper i can set to reset this ?

 

thanks

 

Ps does it usually like like this inside the control panel, so many connecting blocks ....looks untidy....installed by a longstanding pro company

Edited January 2, 2018 by sixwheeledbeast
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[PeterJames]

It could be tidier, but sometimes the tidier it is the harder it is to fault find, Ive seen far worse. It is wired EOL. If the defaulting process doesnt work then the engineer code will have been locked by the installer, this is done to prevent people changing the programming of the system and then trying to blame the installer when there is a burglary and the alarm didnt work. 600 will be compatible with EOL's so an easier DIY project, Im not sure if the 800 expander's are the same though. I hadnt realised you had 19 devices revise my price to around £675.00 plus VAT and another £70.00 plus VAT if you need an expander. If your getting someone in then would advise you get three quotes and see what they say, there will be more labour changing EOLs and expanders but the Gardtec stuff is dated nowadays. 

[PeterJames]

Actually looking again that could be wired 4 wire and not eol its quite hard to tell, take a lid off a detector and take a pic

[al-yeti]

Unlikely op had engineer code , just wants to know how to unlock from start

[MrHappy]

3 hours ago, Steve Jones said:

Ps does it usually like like this inside the control panel, so many connecting blocks ....looks untidy....installed by a longstanding pro company

 

 

Shame I'm 200ml away as I'd enjoy sorting that sort of tat out....

[Steve Jones]

I will get a picture of a PIR inside, meanwhile I was given the engineer code by an employee, unofficially.....I easily changed it to what I wanted, then, as I said, the engineer code just vanished after using it for several years...any ideas ?

 

you say it’s more expensive due to the number of sensors, does that mean each sensor needs ‘ modding’ ?

 

also on RS website the 600 is listed as discontinued.....any ideas on a good alternative,  or is this still good ? could see what the installers I ask for quotes suggest.....

 

as a side note, I decided to test the system and check the battery in the outside bell box.....this box is 27 years old ish and the battery is still functioning, just got to hang in till the upgrade....only trouble is, the plastic is a bit brittle and one of the retaining lugs broke off, so the box doesn’t fit quite as it should do.....kept making the tamper go off.....have jumpered the micro switch to bypass the tamper, for now.....but the keypad is showing the fault log....it’s all clear now and works fine, even changed the master code from default to my own one.....but no engineer code ???

 

so not sure how to clear this display, not that it matters, for when I enter the master code, it just asks me if I want to set the alarm or not.......just curious..