New cctv install and advice on Brand /Product

CARETAKER46 · April 10, 2018

Hi All/ Installer/ Advisors,
I want to buy Cctv camera where we live on busy main road and recently my car got damaged by parking away from home due to limited bay outside my house. This is 3rd time it has been Hit and run.

I wondered if I could have a mobile camera in the car and also on my house to monitor the front of the house and back of the house on the cctv system i will purchase.

i was proposingto use the DVR , which the wireless camera may be compatible to my DVR and this camera either be left in the car or third party wall with permission, but i wont be able to do any wiring due to location of this camera.

i was Hoping if you have better ideas and where would i be better of buying the CCTV ,as i was looking at Screwfix Swann cameras, Amazon, Ebay, Gumtree and so on.

There was a guy saying i can not use the Cat5e cable, i have to use the RG59+Power Shotgun cable ,this is more made for the CCTV and they dont use the CAT5e. This mentioned by From Gumtree , Bo £619.00

If I do park away from my home, it will be next street and this is 50metre away from my house to the next street.

PR16LL

The street I usually parked is on
PR1 6LQ.

Is there any option, as I can not leave my car outside my house due to limited bay, as you need to move it within a hour.

Please advise the best option and the price for the Cctv system wired or may wireless due to location of the car being parked away from my home address.

Kind Regards

From a website recommeded by a friend.

Product	Price	Quantity	Total
HD 1080P TVI Hybrid DVR 8 Channel High Definition 1080p	£199.95	1	£199.95
AV Grade 3TB Hard Drive High Definition 1080p	£109.95	1	£109.95
Large open dome 2.8-12mm lens HD WHITE High Definition 1080p	£99.95	4	£399.80
Small Open Dome 3.6mm Lens HD WHITE High Definition 1080p	£64.95	1	£64.95
4 Camera 5A Power Supply High Definition 1080p	£18.95	2	£37.90
CAT5e Outdoor Cable 100m Roll High Definition 1080p	£39.95	1	£39.95
Video Balun with Flylead (pair) for use with CAT5e Cable High Definition 1080p	£3.95	5	£19.75
DC Power Plug High Definition 1080p	£0.99	5	£4.95
DC Power Socket High Definition 1080p	£0.99	5	£4.95
Weatherproof Box for External Cable Connections High Definition 1080p	£3.49	5	£17.45

Sub Total (ex)	£779.60
VAT	£155.92
Total	£935.5
Additional Discount	- £120.00
Next Business Day Delivery Service - FREE	£0.00

From Gumtree , Bo £619.00

Hikvison 2MP 8 Cameras Full Turbo-HD System:

8ch HiWatch Turbo-HD PRO DVR 3TB HDD
4x HiWatch 2MP Full HD 1080P Day/Night Dome Cameras - VF 2.8-12mm Lens (white)
4x HiWatch 2MP Full HD 1080P Day/Night Dome Cameras - 2.8mm Lens (white)
2x 100meters RG59+Power Shotgun CCTV Cable
BNC Connectors & DC Plugs
8x IP65 Boxes (white or black)
1x PSU for Cameras

From Ebay.
1) Hikvision DVR with a 3 TB HDD: eBay item number: 112401639519 £219.99
2)Varifocal Dome 2.8 mm- 12mm: eBay item number: 112068914950 £34.99
3) Fixed Lense Dome 3.6 mm: eBay item number: 152179389383 £21.99
4) 5 AMP PSU and splitter not listed, we have 3.17 AMP please refer to the following listing: 151585068881
5) We don't stock CAT 5 cable
6) We don't stock Video Baluns
7) DC power socket
8) Weather proof Junction boxes: eBay item number: 112783515299.

Foscam reply.

Thank you for contacting Foscam Support.

Please see answers below:

We have 9 channels NVR kit. See this: https://www.foscam.com/products/9_ch_NVR.html
We are not selling a hard drive.
We only have Large open dome 2.8-12mm lens. See this:
https://www.foscam.com/products/Dome_camera.html
We also have a junction box. See this: https://www.foscam.com/products/Waterproof_Junction_Box.html

If you want to purchase these, please check Amazon or check this: https://www.foscam.com/where-to-buy.html. They are our resellers.

Best Regards
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Your satisfaction is our goal. Any feedback will be highly valued.
If you have any suggestion to our service or product, please e-mail feedback@foscam.com

Sannce Amazon (Customer Service)

For your requirements, we are glad to recommend the suitable camera system for you.
But we feel sorry that we do not sell 3TB hard drive, is the 2TB or 4TB acceptable?
Here are the listings:
The DVR with 3.6mm Lens 1080P camera system https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B074N571RN

Hard drive: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0739VBPFZ : https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B075MXJ9M3

2.8-12mm lens cameras: ttps://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B019PSU22I

Hope it could be helpful.

Nice day
Melissa
ANNKE Customer Care

**sixwheeledbeast** · April 10, 2018

I don't believe anyone here could recommend any DIY Kits like Swann and Sannce or the places you are looking to purchase from. Generally the cable provided in DIY kits is like string, PSU's that burn out and overall will offer a headache and a false sense of security.

I would suggest you look at the ICO website https://ico.org.uk/ about the regulations for CCTV systems, data protection and how a camera pointing into a public area would effect you, before even considering installing.

CAT5e with baluns or RG59+2C would both be appropriate for analogue signals, however many have been using CAT5e solutions as standard for a while now.

I can't work out if you are looking to DIY (fit it yourself) from your post?

Sounds like a small car incident camera maybe most suitable here, I would also try asking the council about providing residents parking for the bay or reducing the time the bay is active, unlikely looking at it but worth a try.

PeterJames · April 10, 2018

You may be better off using a car DVR or a couple of dash cams permanently powered with large sd cards rather than trying to wirelessly record it. The problem with anything wireless lots of things in the environment have a factor, so unless you get the same parking space everyday and that has good line of sight to your access point you will find it very hit and miss(excuse the pun)

**al-yeti** · April 10, 2018

3 hours ago, CARETAKER46 said:

Hi All/ Installer/ Advisors,
I want to buy Cctv camera where we live on busy main road and recently my car got damaged by parking away from home due to limited bay outside my house. This is 3rd time it has been Hit and run.

I wondered if I could have a mobile camera in the car and also on my house to monitor the front of the house and back of the house on the cctv system i will purchase.

i was proposingto use the DVR , which the wireless camera may be compatible to my DVR and this camera either be left in the car or third party wall with permission, but i wont be able to do any wiring due to location of this camera.

i was Hoping if you have better ideas and where would i be better of buying the CCTV ,as i was looking at Screwfix Swann cameras, Amazon, Ebay, Gumtree and so on.

There was a guy saying i can not use the Cat5e cable, i have to use the RG59+Power Shotgun cable ,this is more made for the CCTV and they dont use the CAT5e. This mentioned by From Gumtree , Bo £619.00

If I do park away from my home, it will be next street and this is 50metre away from my house to the next street.

PR16LL

The street I usually parked is on
PR1 6LQ.

Is there any option, as I can not leave my car outside my house due to limited bay, as you need to move it within a hour.

Please advise the best option and the price for the Cctv system wired or may wireless due to location of the car being parked away from my home address.

Kind Regards

From a website recommeded by a friend.

Product Price Quantity Total
HD 1080P TVI Hybrid DVR 8 Channel
High Definition 1080p £199.95 1 £199.95
AV Grade 3TB Hard Drive
High Definition 1080p £109.95 1 £109.95
Large open dome 2.8-12mm lens HD WHITE
High Definition 1080p £99.95 4 £399.80
Small Open Dome 3.6mm Lens HD WHITE
High Definition 1080p £64.95 1 £64.95
4 Camera 5A Power Supply
High Definition 1080p £18.95 2 £37.90
CAT5e Outdoor Cable 100m Roll
High Definition 1080p £39.95 1 £39.95
Video Balun with Flylead (pair) for use with CAT5e Cable
High Definition 1080p £3.95 5 £19.75
DC Power Plug
High Definition 1080p £0.99 5 £4.95
DC Power Socket
High Definition 1080p £0.99 5 £4.95
Weatherproof Box for External Cable Connections
High Definition 1080p £3.49 5 £17.45

Sub Total (ex) £779.60
VAT £155.92
Total £935.5
Additional Discount - £120.00
Next Business Day Delivery Service - FREE £0.00

From Gumtree , Bo £619.00

Hikvison 2MP 8 Cameras Full Turbo-HD System:

8ch HiWatch Turbo-HD PRO DVR 3TB HDD
4x HiWatch 2MP Full HD 1080P Day/Night Dome Cameras - VF 2.8-12mm Lens (white)
4x HiWatch 2MP Full HD 1080P Day/Night Dome Cameras - 2.8mm Lens (white)
2x 100meters RG59+Power Shotgun CCTV Cable
BNC Connectors & DC Plugs
8x IP65 Boxes (white or black)
1x PSU for Cameras

From Ebay.
1) Hikvision DVR with a 3 TB HDD: eBay item number: 112401639519 £219.99
2)Varifocal Dome 2.8 mm- 12mm: eBay item number: 112068914950 £34.99
3) Fixed Lense Dome 3.6 mm: eBay item number: 152179389383 £21.99
4) 5 AMP PSU and splitter not listed, we have 3.17 AMP please refer to the following listing: 151585068881
5) We don't stock CAT 5 cable
6) We don't stock Video Baluns
7) DC power socket
8) Weather proof Junction boxes: eBay item number: 112783515299.

Foscam reply.

Thank you for contacting Foscam Support.

Please see answers below:

We have 9 channels NVR kit. See this: https://www.foscam.com/products/9_ch_NVR.html

We are not selling a hard drive.

We only have Large open dome 2.8-12mm lens. See this:

https://www.foscam.com/products/Dome_camera.html

We also have a junction box. See this: https://www.foscam.com/products/Waterproof_Junction_Box.html

If you want to purchase these, please check Amazon or check this: https://www.foscam.com/where-to-buy.html. They are our resellers.

Best Regards
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Your satisfaction is our goal. Any feedback will be highly valued.
If you have any suggestion to our service or product, please e-mail feedback@foscam.com

Sannce Amazon (Customer Service)

For your requirements, we are glad to recommend the suitable camera system for you.
But we feel sorry that we do not sell 3TB hard drive, is the 2TB or 4TB acceptable?
Here are the listings:
The DVR with 3.6mm Lens 1080P camera system https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B074N571RN

Hard drive: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0739VBPFZ : https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B075MXJ9M3

2.8-12mm lens cameras: ttps://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B019PSU22I

Hope it could be helpful.

Nice day
Melissa
ANNKE Customer Care

What's distance from house to where you park car and is it a clear view ?

CARETAKER46 · April 10, 2018

Thank you guys for your reply.

I have tiredessly and still continuing fighting with the council, council officers, councillors ,pact meeting and no joy easy answer they come out with, we look at safety first and they do not want spend any money on parking bay or even driveway ,as we live on main road and there are mixed residents and businesses and they are not interested. When you car get damaged or vandalised , it is Police matter nothing to do with the council. Like I said to the council ,these things happens due parking problem, overflow of cars from each houses and I live on the main road , it has the limited bay , so you can only park for an hour.

i was intending to park at the back in another street, there is no restriction, but I am parking away from home. So this is where I was going to park my car, which is 50 metre distance from my house. Where I parked I will not be able to see the car, unless if I have cctv and putting the camera on a 3rd party wall , which they said I can install camera on the wall.

I will ignore the DIY kit from Swann, Sannce from Screwfix, Maplins, and other DIY retailers.

i will look at the ico website. CAT5e and RG59+2c both cables are fine then, as I thought the camera keep updating and I thought nowadays they used the CAT5e cable.

small car camera or dash cams can this be used even when the car not in used, i very rarely used the car, I walk it to work, I work locally , sometimes it only gets moved once a week or if I am going out at weekend. I was told to use your dashcam it will work of your car 12volt battery and if you don’t use car often, battery will go dead.

Parking space is not guaranteed, usually I put parking cones to reserve the space, they do get moved depending on each person, as cones are not guaranteed parking space if moved. Front of the property there is no Guarantee parking space, opposite side is all Double yellows lines and outside our house is parking space of 6 spaces and 40 houses wants to park outside our house. So it is like Whacky raves. So wireless camera is not option due to other factors.

**norman** · April 10, 2018

Is there not a small local garage space you could rent to save the hassle?

CARETAKER46 · April 10, 2018

Hi Norman,

it is mostly terraced houses where I live and there used to be council garages up the road, but they have knocked down and it is just an empty land further up the road where I live, it is 95% off street parking and we have space in our garden, where we can turn it to driveway, but the council will not willing to talk and not interested. Well where I live is conservation area and to apply I need planning, submit planning , submit site plan, submit elevation plan, needs a heritage statement , need front elevation plan , which will jus t cost around £1000 and there is no guarantee for dropped kerb permission. I then have to pay county council for the dropped kerb on top of the planning fees.

i searched internet round our area for garages to rent and there none available for rent.

**sixwheeledbeast** · April 10, 2018

Part of the issue is you don't really use the car often enough I suppose. From what I can tell the bay is only restricted during the day but I can understand you maybe unlikely to get a space outside of those times.

Certainly advise you don't block parking with cones or the like as this is considered as obstructing the highway and could lead to a Fixed Penalty Notice.

I actually agree with Norm, I am sure the insurance would favour a lock-up over on street parking maybe any savings on the insurance could be put towards that.

If you really want to park your car in front of your house you could knock the front wall out and apply for a dropped kerb which would mean they would have to adjust the bay then.

Unfortunately this would likely be refused if there is not enough distance from the property to the pavement, normally a car length; so may not be an option.

As for your query on car cams they use a small amount of current but may drain the battery over a longer period time if you don't regularly use the vehicle.

The solution to this would be a separate battery just for the camera unit that would be charged via some sort of split charge setup. No footage if the battery goes flat but at least you can start your car.

**al-yeti** · April 10, 2018

20 minutes ago, CARETAKER46 said:

Hi Norman,

it is mostly terraced houses where I live and there used to be council garages up the road, but they have knocked down and it is just an empty land further up the road where I live, it is 95% off street parking and we have space in our garden, where we can turn it to driveway, but the council will not willing to talk and not interested. Well where I live is conservation area and to apply I need planning, submit planning , submit site plan, submit elevation plan, needs a heritage statement , need front elevation plan , which will jus t cost around £1000 and there is no guarantee for dropped kerb permission. I then have to pay county council for the dropped kerb on top of the planning fees.

i searched internet round our area for garages to rent and there none available for rent.

Ok so next thing is to work out what lens you need on the camera to zoom from your house to the 50m mark and work out the size you need at that distance

A good bullet with zoom lens would do it I am guessing something with 22x motorised zoom will do it but bullet with long range leds

You boss going to give him some DIY advice or what , shall I keep blagging my way through

CARETAKER46 · April 11, 2018

This 50mtr is not straight forward, as it will be parked at the back of the house, so we have the alleyway and then the street, so i have to place the camera in the alleyway to face the exit of the alleyway, where i will have to park my car, so it can be visible from the street.

I can not place the camera anywhere else.

I rather have the CCTV , so it recording 24hrs day and without worrying about the Battery dying out.

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