Eurosec/ Risco cpx 8l keypad removal

[karl taylor]

Hi. Just wanting some information on best way to temporary remove a wired room motion sensor .

 

Need to remove it for plastering work .

 

Am i correct in thinking its a straight forward matter of putting alarm in to engineer mode

 

Then carefully disconnect each wire in turn   .and tape them up seperatly and then when finnished reconnect and then put alarm out of engineer mode?

 

Or do i need to take out a fuse in the panel to stop shortages first? 

 

Any help appreciated .

 

[karl taylor]

Hi.

 

Alarm is a risco cpx 8l 

 

I have been told by my plaster that he needs the keypad removing from a wall that needs replastering.

 

Can any one tell me the best way to do this.

 

Am i correct in assuming i just have to enter the engineer code on the key pad first then i can diconnect it from the back . Then when i am ready to reconnect it connect it back from the back and then take alarm out of engineer mode?

 

Thankd all...

[PeterJames]

Hi welcome to the forum, Ive merged your topics, there is no need to open a new topic for two questions. 

Question 1 cut the 12v pos and dont worry if you short any of the others.

Question 2 The keypad can be removed from the wall with the cable still attached, if its likely to get wet put it in a plastic bag and seal it.

 

If your alarm is under a service contract you may invalidate your contract by carrying out these works yourself

[al-yeti]

8 minutes ago, PeterJames said:

Hi welcome to the forum, Ive merged your topics, there is no need to open a new topic for two questions. 

Question 1 cut the 12v pos and dont worry if you short any of the others.

Question 2 The keypad can be removed from the wall with the cable still attached, if its likely to get wet put it in a plastic bag and seal it.

 

If your alarm is under a service contract you may invalidate your contract by carrying out these works yourself

Ah plastic bag is the one , although it works for the pir sometimes aswell 

 

 

[karl taylor]

Hi. Had a bit of chew in with this.

Put alarm in to engineer mode.

Then disconnected the wiring to the pir in room .

Managed to touch the red wire to some thing when pulling cables back out of pir.

It set the outside siren off saying tamper 8x on the keyboard.

Outside bell box went off for about 30 minutes.

Had a look inside control panel .

1amp fuse is blown , other two fuses the 250mill amp and the 2amp are ok.

 

Went back in the house and now have noticed the keypad is dead.

 

Went to try and get a 1amp fuse . No chance on a sunday....

 

My question is   is the siren likely to go off again or not ? It hast for last 6 hours but thinking it might just be charging up then will go off?

 

I have individualy taped the 5 wires up from the pir .

 

Nothing i can do tonight 

 

Apprently there are varous speeds of 1amp fuse. . From F to T version .

 

 

So will go to electrical factors tomorrow if i get chance with blown one .

 

Just hope alarm wont go off tonight.

 

Alot to be said about bagging the sensors . Well to late now.

 

Think will be ok??

[james.wilson]

I would say the external fail safe timer has stopped it for now

[karl taylor]

I never knew there are 3 different types of 1amp fuse.

Slow speed

Fast speed and delayed 

 

Carnt just fit a 1amp fuse from halfords .

 

The fuse says 1amp speed F.  20mm glass fuse.

 

Going to get some 2amp speed T

And some 250ma speed F fuses as well.

 

Is it likely that the siren will go off again until i get a new fuse?????

[al-yeti]

4 hours ago, karl taylor said:

I never knew there are 3 different types of 1amp fuse.

Slow speed

Fast speed and delayed 

 

Carnt just fit a 1amp fuse from halfords .

 

The fuse says 1amp speed F.  20mm glass fuse.

 

Going to get some 2amp speed T

And some 250ma speed F fuses as well.

 

Is it likely that the siren will go off again until i get a new fuse?????

If it triggers some other way then yes possible

 

In terms of bagging sensors , can't see a problem with it, not sure why you took it apart to bag it , unless cable short , you should carry fuses if you the work regular geezer , I have a box , if you don't have exact you could get away with lower amperage fuse , just don't use fag paper , fag paper still available anyone ?

 

Of course if it's the hold off supply fuse then as jw says 

Edited June 11, 2018 by al-yeti

[karl taylor]

Well not gone off last night.

Power to alarm i have left on .

Cable was too short so couldnt bag it.

Order some fuses from rs components and a few spares of correct grade.

 

Hopefully it wont go off .

 

[karl taylor]

My only concern now is a neighbour told me before i remove the fuses to check them to switch off the power to the alarm at the fuse box and disconnect the battery back up first.

This i did.

Power was off to alarm for about 30 mins.

My concern is i might have lost all the settings to the alarm when i put the blown fuse back in?

 

Hopefully not.

 

If i have it will all need reprogramming .

 

Would this be the case??