Sirenblinky Posted December 5, 2018 Posted December 5, 2018 I've installed this system over 2 months ago and over the last few days I've been getting a tamper warning bell box (Deltabell E). Both the siren and panel sounded. So I checked the Deltabell Microswitch and adjusted the back tamper screw on the bell box. All was ok for 24 hours However this morning the panel sounded with out the external bell box sounding. Log indicates input 33 tamper bell box with a amber fault warning on panel flashing. To get around this I deleted input 33 and the panel warning light had gone . However this cannot be the solution to the problem. Help please. Quote
al-yeti Posted December 5, 2018 Posted December 5, 2018 21 minutes ago, Sirenblinky said: I've installed this system over 2 months ago and over the last few days I've been getting a tamper warning bell box (Deltabell E). Both the siren and panel sounded. So I checked the Deltabell Microswitch and adjusted the back tamper screw on the bell box. All was ok for 24 hours However this morning the panel sounded with out the external bell box sounding. Log indicates input 33 tamper bell box with a amber fault warning on panel flashing. To get around this I deleted input 33 and the panel warning light had gone . However this cannot be the solution to the problem. Help please. Cable fault? Or water has got to it ? Haven't we done all this already with you? Quote
Sirenblinky Posted December 5, 2018 Author Posted December 5, 2018 Yes you have helped me with this one already I thought I had fixed it. I am thinking now the bell box is faulty. I don't think it's water ingress because when I installed it I duck taped the circuit cover and sealed the holes with silicone Quote
al-yeti Posted December 5, 2018 Posted December 5, 2018 17 minutes ago, Sirenblinky said: Yes you have helped me with this one already I thought I had fixed it. I am thinking now the bell box is faulty. I don't think it's water ingress because when I installed it I duck taped the circuit cover and sealed the holes with silicone Pictures Cover on Cover off Side view 18 minutes ago, Sirenblinky said: I am thinking now the bell box is faulty. Bypass tamper at bellbox , and report back how many faults appear One fault or two faults or more So short out the tamper at bellbox end Quote
Sirenblinky Posted December 5, 2018 Author Posted December 5, 2018 Thanks for the help. I went into the menu Diagnostic Wired devices View input Endstation Shows cf I've not been able to get to the bell box yet but unsure what is meant by short out and bypass tamper quoted . Thanks Quote
Sirenblinky Posted December 5, 2018 Author Posted December 5, 2018 (edited) Here is a diagram on how I wired the bell to the panel. With the resistor as described in the diagram. Do I need a link in the panel as well? 122595 122595 Edited December 5, 2018 by Sirenblinky Quote
al-yeti Posted December 5, 2018 Posted December 5, 2018 5 hours ago, Sirenblinky said: Here is a diagram on how I wired the bell to the panel. With the resistor as described in the diagram. Do I need a link in the panel as well? 122595 122595 Doesn't let me look at those files? I meant connect the Tamper so it goes to zero volts or stick the resistor in bell across directly so it's bypassing the bell tampers , not sure if I wording it right ,leave the other wires connected so bell operates and then see if any faults occur Do you have a meter? You could also check the resistance of the cable while disconnected and looped Quote
Sirenblinky Posted December 6, 2018 Author Posted December 6, 2018 Just wondering are you local to me. I am based in ub6. Quote
al-yeti Posted December 6, 2018 Posted December 6, 2018 3 hours ago, Sirenblinky said: Just wondering are you local to me. I am based in ub6. Yes ub3 Quote
al-yeti Posted December 6, 2018 Posted December 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, al-yeti said: If there is movement or mechanical problem with the box , with everything normal you should be able to create the tamper if you move the plastics Although it's possible for a bell to be faulty from new I still think might be mounting issue , Have you mounted it to flat brick or something else Is the cable entry from top , maybe it's crushed going into the box Does box lid sit correctly? If not it sometimes looks slightly lifted because base is warped on what it's sitting against so switch is not firmly down Pictures man need more pictures where you live off the A40 somewhere? Quote
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