Alarm System Advice for Newbie

[bob2611]

5 hours ago, al-yeti said:

Lol, it might work better than others , this might effect the sale of the pyronix enforcer to diyers............

 

 

What is a proper alarm anyway these days ?

do you reckon the pyronix enforcer is the best wireless option ?  I accept the nest does look a little amateur but does tick alot of boxes including fobs and smart home integration. Do you need to buy cloud subscription to manage\view on the phone  (as it uses a central server) ? Do you know how long the batteries last ? That's the thing that puts me off with these wireless systems. Having to get a ladder out every 3-6 months to replace the battery in the bell box or PIR's .

[al-yeti]

5 minutes ago, bob2611 said:

do you reckon the pyronix enforcer is the best wireless option ?  I accept the nest does look a little amateur but does tick alot of boxes including fobs and smart home integration. Do you need to buy cloud subscription to manage\view on the phone  (as it uses a central server) ? Do you know how long the batteries last ? That's the thing that puts me off with these wireless systems. Having to get a ladder out every 3-6 months to replace the battery in the bell box or PIR's .

Old rubbish yes , change batteries often

 

Poor setup leads to wireless bells going off often resulting in bells needing batteries to often , although poorly trained users can do this to but less so

 

Nest has also a paid for option atleast it does in the u.s and will have e that here to from what I know 

 

I think enforcer is best option for a fixed alarm system for diyers although the bell tamper gets everyone lol

 

But eventually you may need an installer for the cloud side , they give end user support though from what I have seen 

 

Others here might be enforcer experts who know more

[MrHappy]

24 minutes ago, bob2611 said:

I accept the nest does look a little amateur but does tick alot of boxes including fobs and smart home integration.

 

you live in a modern house ?

Edited December 16, 2018 by MrHappy

[bob2611]

On 16/12/2018 at 14:26, MrHappy said:

 

you live in a modern house ?

Hi Mr Happy, no. the house is a victorian semi detatched with high ceilings. I am quite IT savvy so I love having everything linked in to google home including my TV, sonos and lights. 

 

al-yeti, thank for the response. I will take a deeper look at the enforcer. Do you know if it will do wireless and wired. I am thinking to wire in the bell box and some pir's and do some wireless where cables are going to be difficult.

 

It also sounds like I can add the wifi\internet portion on at a later date. Does that make sense or is it easier to program the alarm system from the app so buy and fit at the same time ?

 

 

 

 

[PeterJames]

3 hours ago, bob2611 said:

Hi Mr Happy, no. the house is a victorian semi detatched with high ceilings. I am quite IT savvy so I love having everything linked in to google home including my TV, sonos and lights. 

 

al-yeti, thank for the response. I will take a deeper look at the enforcer. Do you know if it will do wireless and wired. I am thinking to wire in the bell box and some pir's and do some wireless where cables are going to be difficult.

 

It also sounds like I can add the wifi\internet portion on at a later date. Does that make sense or is it easier to program the alarm system from the app so buy and fit at the same time ?

 

 

 

 

The bellbox can be powered but still wireless to the panel, most wireless systems can do this. The visonic Powermax has wiring for an external sounder as does the HKC Quantum, not sure about the Enforcer, Scantronic Ion, or the Texecom. But I guess they would all be the same 

[al-yeti]

1 minute ago, PeterJames said:

The bellbox can be powered but still wireless to the panel, most wireless systems can do this. The visonic Powermax has wiring for an external sounder as does the HKC Quantum, not sure about the Enforcer, Scantronic Ion, or the Texecom. But I guess they would all be the same 

Enforcer has a card for wiring bell box 

 

Although not sure if a WiFi card and the bellbox card can both go in same time 

[PeterJames]

1 minute ago, al-yeti said:

Enforcer has a card for wiring bell box 

 

Although not sure if a WiFi card and the bellbox card can both go in same time 

Do you mean that you can only have one or the other?

[al-yeti]

7 minutes ago, PeterJames said:

Do you mean that you can only have one or the other?

Possibly , I remember something has to be done but then someone else said there was room for a csl mini somehow so there is some fiddling

 

Especially when you flip the front off still not held together by much surprised they don't hinge the panel the Muppets

 

Q70 better by far 

 

And texecom and scanny don't do a small all in one  panel meaning newer version , do they?

 

Edited December 21, 2018 by al-yeti
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[PeterJames]

5 minutes ago, al-yeti said:

Possibly , I remember something has to be done but then someone else said there was room for a csl mini somehow so there is some fiddling

 

Especially when you flip the front off still not held together by much surprised they don't hinge the panel the Muppets

 

Q70 better by far 

 

And texecom and scanny don't do a small all in one  panel meaning newer version , do they?

 

I thought the ion was a small one, not sure about the Texe I dont really do diy

[al-yeti]

17 minutes ago, PeterJames said:

I thought the ion was a small one, not sure about the Texe I dont really do diy

No ion doesn't have built in keypad 

 

Lol