Norzbeck Posted December 13, 2018 Posted December 13, 2018 Hi Every body.I have just registered and would like to ask a question please. I have an excisting alarm.The alarm works fine, but the outside bell sounder does not operate when the alarm is activated.I have removed the bell,(which is very old and a circular bell inside the bell box).I would have just liked to replace the round bell, but it is proving quite difficult to replace with another round bell.There are only for wires into the bell box red and black to the bell and blue and yellow are tamper and go to a micro switch that is activated then the screw is removed from the bell box. Could somebody please tell me as the wiring is so basic what type of bell box I could replace it with or where I can buy a round bell to go in the existing bell box. Quote
sixwheeledbeast Posted December 13, 2018 Posted December 13, 2018 That type of bell hasn't been manufactured in many decades. Replace for an SAB of your choosing you may find a model with the aesthetics your looking for. If you need help with the wiring upload a picture of the panel end terminals and we can try and point you in the right direction. https://www.securitywarehouse.co.uk/catalog/intruder-alarm-c-36/sounders-c-36_45/ Quote
Norzbeck Posted December 14, 2018 Author Posted December 14, 2018 Hi Global Moderator, Thank you for your answer.I was really just wondering if I could do a straight swap using the existing 4,wires.Is that possible. Quote
Norzbeck Posted December 14, 2018 Author Posted December 14, 2018 Come on guys please give me some help on this, thank you. Quote
sixwheeledbeast Posted December 14, 2018 Posted December 14, 2018 I have explained the best way forward. Replacing your bell would be a waste of time and energy even if you can find a like for like replacement. Quote
al-yeti Posted December 14, 2018 Posted December 14, 2018 On 13/12/2018 at 12:39, Norzbeck said: Hi Every body.I have just registered and would like to ask a question please. I have an excisting alarm.The alarm works fine, but the outside bell sounder does not operate when the alarm is activated.I have removed the bell,(which is very old and a circular bell inside the bell box).I would have just liked to replace the round bell, but it is proving quite difficult to replace with another round bell.There are only for wires into the bell box red and black to the bell and blue and yellow are tamper and go to a micro switch that is activated then the screw is removed from the bell box. Could somebody please tell me as the wiring is so basic what type of bell box I could replace it with or where I can buy a round bell to go in the existing bell box. Straight forward low security DIY dot com +12v -0v Bell is the trigger But your old panel needs to be seen to be sure how to connect it, assuming your panel output goes to zero or goes to 12v will depend on where you can connect a sounder to it You need the tamper blue and yellow that might be able to work across the zero volts and t connection but that's if you buy an up-to-date date bell Or just buy an electronic sounder to suit the power output and stick it the old box And then don't buy a new phone or service your car for a couple of years and save up to have a new alarm fitted or buy a new alarm to be fitted and come back here and get help how to replace it possibly Make sense? Quote
Norzbeck Posted December 15, 2018 Author Posted December 15, 2018 15 hours ago, sixwheeledbeast said: I have explained the best way forward. Replacing your bell would be a waste of time and energy even if you can find a like for like replacement. Hi Sorry if I addressed you by the wrong name.Why would replacing the bell be a waste of time.The alarm works perfectly fine.It is just the external bell does not ring when the alarm is activated. Quote
Norzbeck Posted December 15, 2018 Author Posted December 15, 2018 15 hours ago, al-yeti said: Straight forward low security DIY dot com +12v -0v Bell is the trigger But your old panel needs to be seen to be sure how to connect it, assuming your panel output goes to zero or goes to 12v will depend on where you can connect a sounder to it You need the tamper blue and yellow that might be able to work across the zero volts and t connection but that's if you buy an up-to-date date bell Or just buy an electronic sounder to suit the power output and stick it the old box And then don't buy a new phone or service your car for a couple of years and save up to have a new alarm fitted or buy a new alarm to be fitted and come back here and get help how to replace it possibly Make sense? The alarm works perfectly fine.It is just the outside bell does not sound when the alarm is activated.There are a red and a black going to the existing bell.And only the tamper loop wires to the micro switch.That is all the wires in the outside bell box. Quote
sixwheeledbeast Posted December 15, 2018 Posted December 15, 2018 When was the alarm last serviced? Have you replaced the standby battery in the control panel recently? It may seem to arm/disarm fine but without operational checks you may not know until it fails to operate. Quote
al-yeti Posted December 15, 2018 Posted December 15, 2018 14 minutes ago, Norzbeck said: The alarm works perfectly fine.It is just the outside bell does not sound when the alarm is activated.There are a red and a black going to the existing bell.And only the tamper loop wires to the micro switch.That is all the wires in the outside bell box. You done anything I said then? Or ignored what anyone is writing? Quote
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