Accenta G3 tamper fault

[hunter27]

Hi

My daughter has just moved into a house that has a Accenta G3 alarm fitted.  The previous owner left the code but she never said the alarm wasn't working.  Pressing any of keys on the keypad has no effect and makes no sound, the alarm went off when I turned the house  consumer unit off but putting in the code did stop the alarm so I guess the panel battery is also shot. There is a Day and power light lit on the keypad but also a tamper light lit as well.  I removed 2 PIR's for the decorator and that had no effect. I am wondering if it is just a tamper circuit fault that I can probably track down  (but would that cause this effect on the system ?) or is it likely to be  something more serious?

I downloaded the instructions but could not see if a tamper fault disables using the system?

Thanks for any pointers.

Pete 

[sixwheeledbeast]

System is locked out in tamper due to a fault or multiple of them.

I would recommend having the system serviced including battery replacement.

[hunter27]

Thanks for your reply,

I will check  the tamper circuits for the fault first and if I find it/them I will change the battery, otherwise I will remove it all and fit a new system.

I opened the panel last night and have access to the connections but don't want to do too much yet without having a ladder handy to silence the bell.

Thanks again.

Pete 

Edited May 4, 2019 by hunter27

[Specialist]

Hi: The battery you need to replace is in the control panel, on the connections in the panel are 2 marked Tamp. Remove the wires from those connections and fit a wire link to the terminals. Now close the lid and try setting, if it sets now the problem is the tamper circuit. If not then it looks like new panel time.

Please replace the battery first though.

If the problem is in the circuit, you'll need a multimeter and patience to trace the problem.

Edited May 4, 2019 by Specialist

[Specialist]

Sorry OP, just re-read your post:  If you didn't completely power down the system (battery and mains) before removing the detectors, you may have blown an internal fuse as well.

Edited May 4, 2019 by Specialist

[al-yeti]

7 hours ago, Specialist said:

Hi: The battery you need to replace is in the control panel, on the connections in the panel are 2 marked Tamp. Remove the wires from those connections and fit a wire link to the terminals. Now close the lid and try setting, if it sets now the problem is the tamper circuit. If not then it looks like new panel time.

Please replace the battery first though.

If the problem is in the circuit, you'll need a multimeter and patience to trace the problem.

Yes but this is how most systems like this carry on working without a tamper ...... Diyers never fix them 

[Specialist]

You seem to have a very jaundiced view of diye'rs. Trust me they're not all the same.

But whatever the op decides to do is up to him. He asked for information / advice and was given it.

 

[al-yeti]

5 hours ago, Specialist said:

You seem to have a very jaundiced view of diye'rs. Trust me they're not all the same.

But whatever the op decides to do is up to him. He asked for information / advice and was given it.

 

Hahaha so sensitive , to much Johnson

 

I was simply saying this is why systems end up with no tamper protection , not questioning your method or the diyer it's simple fact 

 

Joker lol

[Specialist]

1 hour ago, al-yeti said:

Hahaha so sensitive: Could be the fact that I don't like ill thought out comments.

 

tomuch Johnson ?

 

I was simply saying this is why systems end up with no tamper protection , not questioning your method or the diyer it's simple fact: In your opinion.

 

And many systems end up with no tamper protection, due to installers being too damned lazy or penny pinching to install them. 

 

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Joker lol

 

Edited May 4, 2019 by Specialist

[hunter27]

Hi Specialist

Thank you  for your reply

I think I will be able to track down the tamper fault and do know how to use the multimeter  I am just surprised a tamper fault will completely stop the system in this way.

I have now bought a full new full system that I am more familiar and intend to fit but will need to check the old cabling is not causing the fault. It's all hidden under the chipboard floors and inside the walls and I do intend re using it but would also like to find this fault mainly through interest.

I have a new battery with the new system so I will fit that temporarily and intended linking out the tamp circuit then checking each leg separately.

I want the ladders handy in case the bell goes off and I can't stop it from inside, don't want to upset the new neighbours.

Cheers Pete