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Steve23

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Hi all.

I best start of saying I'm a complete beginner when it comes to alarm systems as you'll probably guess. I have a Honeywell Flex 20 and a keypad and a couple of budget PIR motion sensors to test out wiring EOL before I buy more (better quality) and install.

On the manual its shows 8 connections on the sensor.

2x Faults,

2xTamper,

2x Alarm

2 Power.

But on most of the motion sensors I've seen they only have 6 connections.

2xTamper

2x Alarm

2x Power

The manuals showing me where to wire the resistors including into the 2 fault connections but how do i wire the resistors if I only have the 6 connections?

I watched a couple of YouTube videos and I'm thinking I may have it right but now I'm not sure how that wires to the board as again the manual shows the fault connections being wired to the board.

I've attached a couple of pictures from the manual and one from the sensor I think it's wired right, you'll have to ignore the wire colours as I'm using old cat5 cable for testing.

Also another part what should be easy is if I'm not using a zone on the alarm I'm not actually sure where to wire them.

Sorry for the fact questions and thanks for any help.

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19 minutes ago, james.wilson said:

Fault is optional for higher grade detectors just wire it as you have for alarm and tamper

Thanks for the reply.

So how do I tell which is the tamper connection and which is the alarm connection on each zone on the panel ? As it doesn't label them like on the sensors.

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7 minutes ago, Logan said:

I reccomend you you 8 core alarm cable. Using phone or cat 5 Ethernet network can cause problems 

Thanks I have bought alarm cable just waiting for it being delivered.

Although the manual does recommend Cat5 cable.

Although I've only ordered 4 core as I thought that's all I need.

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3 hours ago, Steve23 said:

Thanks for the reply.

So how do I tell which is the tamper connection and which is the alarm connection on each zone on the panel ? As it doesn't label them like on the sensors.

Panel just wire the two cores to a zone and that's it , the panel uses two cores for the zone for tamper and alarm , which is why eol is done at the sensor

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15 minutes ago, al-yeti said:

Panel just wire the two cores to a zone and that's it , the panel uses two cores for the zone for tamper and alarm , which is why eol is done at the sensor

Thanks.

I'm not great with this can I just check,

You are basically saying I can use either of the zone connections as long as the resistors are right in the sensor ?

Can I also ask you about the diagram above, it shows the  -V joining one of the alarm wires on the sensor side and then onto the 0V on the panel..

Is that the normal way of doing it then 

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41 minutes ago, Steve23 said:

Thanks.

I'm not great with this can I just check,

You are basically saying I can use either of the zone connections as long as the resistors are right in the sensor ?

Can I also ask you about the diagram above, it shows the  -V joining one of the alarm wires on the sensor side and then onto the 0V on the panel..

Is that the normal way of doing it then 

Can be yes 

 

But at panel 

 

0v to one leg of sensor which is centre of zone1&2

 

And Z1 leg to other leg of sensor

 

Then zone 2 would be one leg from same 0v connection at panel and other leg to z2

You could ignore that drawing as it may confuse you using the fault connections

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Thanks for the info guys.

Yeah i realise there's more to it then I thought :lol:.

I naively thought  the connections would be similar to what the kepad was

A to A,

B to B etc

Can I double check with you guys, I asked the question at the same time on a Facebook group and someone suggested putting the resistors inline and not into the connections on the sensor is that how you would do it ?

I'm talking to him through Google translate so thought it would be a bit tricky to ask him.

He sent me this picture.

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