bowlingman Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 I have purchased a new unit and before full install in my home I have connected it up on the bench to familiarise myself. I have endstation one expander and one kp. I have followed the manual and programmed the system linked all 16 zones with 4.7k resisters quit engineering and gone back into standby mode and all is well kp display normal. However when I attempt to arm the display scrolls through the zones stating they are active and will not arm, turning all zones off the system it arms as it should, but even with just one zone on it will not arm. But in standby/unset mode everything is ok, disconnecting a zone resister causes a tamper as you would expect. I am scratching my head can anyone advise please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 2.2k + 4.7k = zone active. The alarm contacts are usually CLOSED. You need only 2.2k resistors across each zone for closed zone testing purposes, however, this won't make it easy to test opening a zone. I would wire at least one proper contact in for a bench test. It's better to buy contacts with such resistors built in, it's so much easier and they cost pennies. Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Don't link zones out you program them out. 4k7 is the shunt resistance and 2k2 is the EOL resistance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingman Posted February 25, 2020 Author Share Posted February 25, 2020 Thank you for your very quick response The 2.2k resister is only in circuit when a detection device operates and all the panel can " see " otherwise is 4.7k So the system as I have on the bench should arm normally but it will not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingman Posted February 25, 2020 Author Share Posted February 25, 2020 I apologises gents as soon as I read Sixwheeledbeast replay I realised my mistake I am mixing up my resisters!! Thank you both very much for your lightning fast responses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingman Posted February 25, 2020 Author Share Posted February 25, 2020 Having my silly mistake of wrong way round resistors pointed out so kindly earlier today can I ask another question of you please. On page 32 of the installation manual it shows the default resistor wiring, on page 60 it lists under zone wiring alternate resister options I require option 5 to suit my existing detector circuits from my old Gardtec. I cannot locate where in the programming this option is, its probably my old age again !! Thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 I would simply change each detector to the default option of 2.2K in series with the tamper and 4.7K across the alarm contact. That will pretty much future proof the system. It's worth the effort for the little time it will take. Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 15 minutes ago, bowlingman said: I cannot locate where in the programming this option is, its probably my old age again !! its on every zone Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingman Posted February 25, 2020 Author Share Posted February 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, MrHappy said: its on every zone Do you mean is in the zone type setting somewhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Zone Wiring is the menu option. I'd also recommend swapping them out if the PIR's are in decent condition, alternatively replacing the PIR's for something with built in ones if not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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