Which Honeywell Panel in UK? - Gave up waiting for Konnected.io

[PeterJames]

• Ability to connect to Home Assistant, via Alarm Decoded or Envisalink boards In What format?
• External Keypads and Siren Nearly every alarm panel has this facility nowadays 
• Ease of connection for central monitoring station such as AMCO (dual path for insurance) You dont want a basic panel
• I would prefer the option to also add additional sensors that I missed off via RF as well, even panic buttons etc if that's possible. You want hybrid
• All sensors are currently wired back to central location, windows, doors, pirs etc They all do that 

When I asked what do you want the panel to do I meant what are you wanting from home assistant IE the detectors in the rooms to talk to your hub and switch lights on and off, when you open a door for longer than 20 secs it switches the heating off. We need to know what format you need it to integrate SIA, 232, 485 or basic input outputs? 

[MrHappy]

2 hours ago, sg86sg said:

Thanks for all of the replies, I think we've got bogged down in the insurance element, to be clear my insurer is fine with the Konnected.io panel

 

Your intending to use uncommon & probably ungraded equipment, Verbally confirmed by a call centre & is quite different from confirmed in writing

 

2 hours ago, sg86sg said:

I was waiting for with AMCO's live monitoring software/hardware connected as they specified.

 

The UK is currently in the middle of social distancing, which one of the many reason I wouldn't touch 'em with a barge pole

 

2 hours ago, sg86sg said:

Envisalink or another similar board.

 

You gonn have to bodge something together if you want something to work with a $129 US DIY type of thing ?

[sg86sg]

4 minutes ago, james.wilson said:

No EU complaint panel I know of does this. Honeywell galaxy and vista are not related in any way. The vista is an ademco product, the galaxy/dimension is a microtech one

 

Anything will do that

 

Again any proper comms will connect to an EU panel we do it every day, but insurance approval needs nsi etc approval (i note you know this)

Most panels are available as hybrid options allowing rf and hard wired

 

A hybrid will utilise your existing wiring (assuming enough cores and in tact)

 

Your biggie issue is nothing professional is designed to connect to Home assistant nativly due to the risks involved in that sector. Your not imho gonna tick all your boxes. You can get the functionality you require just not with HA. So as alyeti says if you list what you need functionalilty wise then that would exclude other products maybe already mentioned

 

 

I appreciate the replies but again you are hung up on this homeassistant thing, I know I want this flexibility but addon boards can cater for this and I can contact the manufacturer to make sure any panel I look to buy will work with it.

 

So that aside so far we are looking at Honeywell Accenta/Optima as the option for residential systems without being overkill, or HKC SW-10270?

[sg86sg]

4 minutes ago, MrHappy said:

Your intending to use uncommon & probably ungraded equipment, Verbally confirmed by a call centre & is quite different from confirmed in writing

 

I have it confirmed in writing and have an open policy with the insurers that allows for my suggested setup. The policy is specialist and the underwriters also.

 

4 minutes ago, MrHappy said:

The UK is currently in the middle of social distancing, which one of the many reason I wouldn't touch 'em with a barge pole

 

Not sure what this is about, I never said I would be having them walk in tomorrow?

 

4 minutes ago, MrHappy said:

You gonn have to bodge something together if you want something to work with a $129 US DIY type of thing ?

 

Who knows, i'm on the path to find out. These things are plug and play with the Vista range, I'll need to see if that's the case with the UK variants.

[sg86sg]

I also want to add this, because so many people have commented on hooking up these addon boards, and I don't see anything wrong with monitoring the board in such a way?

 

https://help.konnected.io/support/solutions/articles/32000028384-wiring-a-interface-expansion

 

With an Interface board (not a standalone setup I was going for), I can buy any dedicated UK panel and just monitor it with this. Then I can perform additional things that I want myself such as push notificaitons/emails, other actions on smart equipment in my home etc etc

[al-yeti]

57 minutes ago, sg86sg said:

 

I really don't get forums sometimes, I came here with good intentions and tried to write a clear OP which I thought included everything already.

 

 

You will once you detail it a better way 

 

And keep any banter as banter 

 

I don't understand most of what your all on about

[norman]

14 minutes ago, al-yeti said:

I don't understand most of what your all on about

I think it's safe to say that we all feel the same about your ramblings... 

[al-yeti]

12 minutes ago, norman said:

I think it's safe to say that we all feel the same about your ramblings... 

Excellent

[PeterJames]

55 minutes ago, sg86sg said:

I also want to add this, because so many people have commented on hooking up these addon boards, and I don't see anything wrong with monitoring the board in such a way?

 

https://help.konnected.io/support/solutions/articles/32000028384-wiring-a-interface-expansion

 

With an Interface board (not a standalone setup I was going for), I can buy any dedicated UK panel and just monitor it with this. Then I can perform additional things that I want myself such as push notificaitons/emails, other actions on smart equipment in my home etc etc

Looking at the Konnected diagram on that page its not talking in any format its just wired into the zones for inputs and the out puts for ....outputs 

Any panel will work with one of these.

 

Assuming that your insurer is happy with DIY  and that you dont need Police response, all you need is a hybrid panel with maybe a few additional outputs.

 

The way you formed your original question sounded like you needed something totally different Monitoring in our world is sending signals to an alrm monitoring station to call the police, monitoring imn your world is adding a board that tells you your alrm system is working. 

 

 

[sixwheeledbeast]

It's just some zone state detecting tat, sure I have seen other things do this cheaper maybe some raspberry Pi hack on thing.

There's no reason you can't have a panel with enough outputs on zone mimic either.