MrHappy Posted April 14, 2020 Posted April 14, 2020 Just now, PeterJames said: Why are they in bedrooms? Kidnapped ? there's a clue at meal time- Quote Mr Veritas God
norman Posted April 14, 2020 Posted April 14, 2020 Fritzl training academy. Keeping it in the family. Quote Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool.
sg86sg Posted April 15, 2020 Author Posted April 15, 2020 (edited) 16 hours ago, MrHappy said: As with any policy, the wording is rather important, you may think you you have the correct items in place. Should you wish to make a claim, you may hit a snag... I was trying to imply... I can think on no reason on earth why I'd use 'em Your best bet is buy your preferred board & **** about with it on the bench & work out want it can & can't do, if don't work out ebay it Any half decent alarm has outputs & zone programmable as key switches Sure I will check the wording again but I was quite clear as to what I was doing and as I say this is a specialist policy with many other security features in place that they are more bothered about. About AMCO, if you are saying you would never use them could you shed some more light on that? I've not signed up to anything but I was going to go with them because they talked to me on a lower installer level if you like, I said I would route cables and such for them (being a sparks would rather do this myself, I've seem cable routing by some alarm companies (no offence or generalisation meant!)). Whereas ADT and others just gave me the sales pitch and a ridiculous quotation. Yea this Konnected panel just piggybacks, and if I get all of these events to HA I can do lots of cool things, at least what I think is cool 14 hours ago, datadiffusion said: Does not compute LOL just about sums the market up. £2k budget for HA £20 budget for security panel No idea what this means, I'm sure it's not helpful though If you're referring to my budget then you have no idea as I didn't even mention one! If anyone lives in the south east I would be happy taking personal advice/quote to the work on the panel, I've since retired from electrics and I've not even got round to fully finishing everything else I've wired in yet and in all honesty I just want this done so I can work on some cool scripts ---------------- Envisalink - They replies and said the best bet for UK market would be DSC 1864, DSC 1832, DSC 1616. These panels any good or should I just go with the mid-range Honeywells or HKC? I think I looked into the DSC some time ago and wanted to go with the newer panels, Neo? But I don't think they were supported so didn't go down that route Edited April 15, 2020 by sg86sg Quote
sg86sg Posted April 15, 2020 Author Posted April 15, 2020 So after some more googling think I'm going to go for the Honeywell Flex series, seems a little less over the top than the Dimension for my use case, and also kits come with ethernet module so i can at least have some limited smart functionality until konnected's new panels come out Quote
sixwheeledbeast Posted April 15, 2020 Posted April 15, 2020 Why not run your own cables and get a small decent approved company to fit some decent kit? Not saying all companies would all be up for that or that they may want some disclaimer about existing cabling faults, but worth asking. Fitted a few DSC in the past for an integration job, specced by a HA company.... Uses an interface with a serial bus so the HA can see all the devices live, the rest was all done on the HA side. It was just weird foreign tat IMO nothing special. All these North American panels are just not designed for the UK market, they may work as an alarm but not conform and support will be limited from manufacturers and installers. JW listed most of the usual UK market panels, Galaxy Texecom Eaton etc. Have you actually decided if your DIYing or not because that's the first step really. Talking manufacturers is useless if your still thinking your getting someone in. Quote
datadiffusion Posted April 15, 2020 Posted April 15, 2020 4 hours ago, Logan said: If you're referring to my budget then you have no idea as I didn't even mention one! Galaxy Dimension it is then ? Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands
MrHappy Posted April 15, 2020 Posted April 15, 2020 6 hours ago, sg86sg said: Sure I will check the wording again but I was quite clear as to what I was doing and as I say this is a specialist policy with many other security features in place that they are more bothered about. About AMCO, if you are saying you would never use them could you shed some more light on that? I've not signed up to anything but I was going to go with them because they talked to me on a lower installer level if you like, I said I would route cables and such for them (being a sparks would rather do this myself, I've seem cable routing by some alarm companies (no offence or generalisation meant!)). Whereas ADT and others just gave me the sales pitch and a ridiculous quotation. Yea this Konnected panel just piggybacks, and if I get all of these events to HA I can do lots of cool things, at least what I think is cool No idea what this means, I'm sure it's not helpful though If you're referring to my budget then you have no idea as I didn't even mention one! If anyone lives in the south east I would be happy taking personal advice/quote to the work on the panel, I've since retired from electrics and I've not even got round to fully finishing everything else I've wired in yet and in all honesty I just want this done so I can work on some cool scripts ---------------- k - They replies and said the best bet for UK market would be DSC 1864, DSC 1832, DSC 1616. These panels any good or should I just go with the mid-range Honeywells or HKC? I think I looked into the DSC some time ago and wanted to go with the newer panels, Neo? But I don't think they were supported so didn't go down that route Domestic property of a certain risk - proper alarm with proper signalling, jewellery / watches Faberge eggs or whatever kept in safe of certain type. AMCO, you appear to want something cheap, they appear to have no approval for any of their scope of works. ADT ect..., if going to take days to fit , I assume over a grand just for the man hrs Konnected, again looks cheap & cheerful, Envisalink - looks cheap & cheerful... DSC - I believe they've fully withdrawn for the UK for a number of years, I thought they where pants... The out the box solution is texecom ect & control4 ect... Wired alarm in a bigish house couple of grand, control4 much much dearer I be happy to instruct any of my cleint's to do the wiring, however depend on who & what I may want paying to do so 1 Quote Mr Veritas God
datadiffusion Posted April 15, 2020 Posted April 15, 2020 1 hour ago, MrHappy said: Domestic property of a certain risk - proper alarm with proper signalling, jewellery / watches Faberge eggs or whatever kept in safe of certain type. AMCO, you appear to want something cheap, they appear to have no approval for any of their scope of works. ADT ect..., if going to take days to fit , I assume over a grand just for the man hrs Konnected, again looks cheap & cheerful, Envisalink - looks cheap & cheerful... DSC - I believe they've fully withdrawn for the UK for a number of years, I thought they where pants... The out the box solution is texecom ect & control4 ect... Wired alarm in a bigish house couple of grand, control4 much much dearer I be happy to instruct any of my cleint's to do the wiring, however depend on who & what I may want paying to do so DSC - so crap, I believe the Gardiner Technology shops were happy to sell them as the only other brand they sold to reassure their customers they were making the right choice with Gardtec 1 Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands
MrHappy Posted April 15, 2020 Posted April 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, datadiffusion said: DSC - so crap, I believe the Gardiner Technology shops were happy to sell them as the only other brand they sold to reassure their customers they were making the right choice with Gardtec harsh, but fair... 1 Quote Mr Veritas God
al-yeti Posted April 16, 2020 Posted April 16, 2020 10 hours ago, datadiffusion said: DSC - so ****, I believe the Gardiner Technology shops were happy to sell them as the only other brand they sold to reassure their customers they were making the right choice with Gardtec British gas special Quote
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