Smart security devices have risk from hacking

[james.wilson]

It's not just routers

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-56996717

 

As more and more devices are connected to the Internet firmware upgrades need to be done. 

Sia updates all firmwares on supported systems as released if required. 

 

Whats the thoughts on auto firmware updates and what about the systems without support contracts in place? 

[sixwheeledbeast]

I don't recommend using any ISP provided router if your tech savvy enough to manage your own.

Yes stuff needs updating but more likely it will be discontinued or never done.

Auto firmware updates could be an option but that would be undesirable solution IMO. What's to say that isn't exploited in the future somehow, or it borks up and bricks the device at a time of need.

You say "smart security" but any internet connected device has a risk and if your device is hosting a service you will be more at risk.

Issue is it costs money for this stuff but people want those free appz.

[Imnotshankled]

55 minutes ago, sixwheeledbeast said:

I don't recommend using any ISP provided router if your tech savvy enough to manage your own.

Yes stuff needs updating but more likely it will be discontinued or never done.

Auto firmware updates could be an option but that would be undesirable solution IMO. What's to say that isn't exploited in the future somehow, or it borks up and bricks the device at a time of need.

You say "smart security" but any internet connected device has a risk and if your device is hosting a service you will be more at risk.

Issue is it costs money for this stuff but people want those free appz.

I prefer using non smart home things for security use

[sixwheeledbeast]

Doesn't matter you maybe able to pivot from "smart" devices or these routers to a "security device" it's irrelevant regarding firmware patches if it has a network connection in some way.

 

Regarding non-contract customers then they are non-contract so take the risk themselves IMO. It's just like not having a system checked annually there is more risk of some failure being unnoticed.

[awsecure]

Seems that a lot of people also like adding the devices to the providers cloud systems rather than port forwarding.

[sixwheeledbeast]

On 06/05/2021 at 10:18, sixwheeledbeast said:

I don't recommend using any ISP provided router if your tech savvy enough to manage your own.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-57156799

[MrHappy]

6 minutes ago, sixwheeledbeast said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-57156799

 

reading the article,

 

 

The police later told the couple that four photos depicting category B child abuse - the second-most-serious kind - had been uploaded to an online chat site a year ago.

Information passed to the National Crime Agency suggested it had come from their IP address.

 

 

1 year after the event the police turn up ?

 

They appear to have an adsl router & I doubt they have a fixed IP

 

Is it them, a nonce in the flat next door on their wifi or nonce with a fake IP...

 

I reckon the later ?

[sixwheeledbeast]

The police will have been back tracing from the photos they found.

Your ISP keep logs of which dynamic IP's are dished out for things like above.

[al-yeti]

Vodaphone said they have no details, but they all keep them for five years minimum 

[Zimmerphrame-]

On 06/05/2021 at 11:18, sixwheeledbeast said:

I don't recommend using any ISP provided router if your tech savvy enough to manage your own.

Yes stuff needs updating but more likely it will be discontinued or never done.

Auto firmware updates could be an option but that would be undesirable solution IMO. What's to say that isn't exploited in the future somehow, or it borks up and bricks the device at a time of need.

You say "smart security" but any internet connected device has a risk and if your device is hosting a service you will be more at risk.

Issue is it costs money for this stuff but people want those free appz.

 only safe system is a closed system... plus, the smarter technology is, the more likely it'll mess up...