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I have a Visonic kit (panel + sensors),  I had an ADT subscription. I terminated the contract with ADT

 

I tried to "reset" the panel and fit it to my needs. I sadly found it isn't. Although I can do a reset (green light = success?), I cannot log into the panel, either via USB port or AlarmInstall app. 

 

I would just to know if it possible to default (reset) this panel to use without paying ADT a fee, or it's simply impossible.

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I dont really know the visonic tat that well, its one way wireless and I wouldn't touch it. But I dont know any panel with an app that doesn't work via the manufacturers cloud/servers. When a customer cancels their contract the panel id gets switched off at the cloud/server. So unless you build your own cloud and work out a way of making your panel talk to it you wont get it to work DIY. To talk to it through the USB you would need the manufacturers engineer software, not readily available.

I know that its not very green to tell you to bin it if it doesnt do what you want, I would suggest that you can either put an aftermarket dialler on it if you need notifications. Or bin it and get something that will do what you want. I would be cautious of any free app alarms though, servers cost a lot of money to run, and if someone is providing a service and not being paid for it, they are less in a rush to fix it when it goes wrong(They have already sold you the alarm kit there is no benefit to them rushing to fix something your not paying for)

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The one way Visonic is all discontinued, any in service won't have much life left before something fails, newer stuff is two way and seems more reliable.

It's possible but your stuck with only using ADT devices and you need to know how to program it all up if you default everything.

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11 hours ago, Juan Pablo said:

I would just to know if it possible to default (reset) this panel to use without paying ADT a fee,

 

Is it an ADT UK product ?

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  • 3 years later...
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I'm kind of late to the party, but the final answer to the OP question came in just a few days ago.

 

Between heating and eating I chose... to cancel ADT subscription. At the time of the separation, ADT didn't offer any codes. Fully functional Visonic PowerMaster 360 professionally installed system became abandoned as a result primarily because of the inability to check it via the app remotely.

 

Many thanks to Visonic Powermax and Powermaster Integration for Home Assistant OSS project, it is possible to give Visonic PowerMaster 360 a second lease of life without paying for a rather expensive and totally useless subscription. As a byproduct, the following secret codes, not shared by ADT otherwise, can be extracted from Visonic Power Master 360 and a few other panels on the list:

  • User Codes
  • Master Code
  • Installer Code
  • Master Download Code
  • Installer Download Code

Raspberry Pi Zero (£12.59 inc. VAT and shipping) will do the one off code dumping job. It will require a quality micro USB cable, a phone charger with micro USB output and an ability to follow unwritten instructions.

 

NB Raspberry PI Zero doesn't have any network connectivity, so it will be useless for anything else. Although I have some positive experience of running Home Assistant on a sister SBC with 512 MB RAM and Wi-Fi (Zero 2W), Home Assistant hardware requirements are hugely and unreasonably inflated when it comes to RAM.

 

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So unless you build your own cloud and work out a way of making your panel talk to it you wont get it to work DIY. To talk to it through the USB you would need the manufacturers engineer software, not readily available.

 

Well, the internet if full of opinions and alternative facts.

 

The panel is self contained. No cloud is required for it to operate.

 

By plugging Home Assistant via Visonic Powermax and Powermaster Integration into PowerLink subsystem via a micro USB connector at the back, the panel is getting an ability for integration with Apple HomeKit, or any other home automation controller either natively when supported, or via MQTT.

 

In addition, the GSM module inside the panel can be configured to send alerts via text messages. Apparently this will require a SIM on a paid contract. As a reminder, the GSM module is 2G/3G, and 3G will not exist in the UK beyond next year (with exception for so much lobbied smart meters, of course) and 2G will be switched off by 2033 at the latest.

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2 minutes ago, james.wilson said:

I need to review links but I'm away from a desktop. 

 

I assumed spam, but looks like good info

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18 hours ago, james.wilson said:

I need to review links but I'm away from a desktop. 

Good old Github

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