Axotyl Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 (edited) There are several GSM speech and text auto-diallers available. One model is the Menvier SD3, with 8 Trigger inputs and 4 outputs plus 10 alert contacts. Can any user familiar with this device inform me whether one can configure a Trigger input (say PIR) to switch on an alarm (or siren, or light etc.) in addition to sending an alert? Specs are here: https://bit.ly/3lUH5bJ A similar auto-dialler is here: https://bit.ly/3iw1vWa with less inputs. We're only interested in GSM devices, as landline isn't available. We've spent a month researching auto-diallers, and have been continually told by installers that they have to have utilise a copper landline, which these devices don't. Edited August 7, 2021 by Axotyl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Axotyl said: There are several GSM speech and text auto-diallers available. One model is the Menvier SD3, with 8 Trigger inputs and 4 outputs plus 10 alert contacts. Can any user familiar with this device inform me whether one can configure a Trigger input (say PIR) to switch on an alarm (or siren, or light etc.) in addition to sending an alert? Specs are here: https://bit.ly/3lUH5bJ A similar auto-dialler is here: https://bit.ly/3iw1vWa with less inputs. We're only interested in GSM devices, as landline isn't available. We've spent a month researching auto-diallers, and have been continually told by installers that they have to have utilise a copper landline, which these devices don't. Well the PIR has alarm contacts so you could use them maybe with a relay just to trigger the input on any autodialer , there many cheaper devices which will do the just b for you on eBay For example https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Alarm-Installer-Auto-Dialler-with-Controllable-Relay-/233783581818?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=710-127635-2958-0 They have different versions , but I would recommend a cheap monthly contract SIM , you will kill your credit quick otherwise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 I would always connect your detectors to a control panel then the panel to the dialler. Yes gsm diallers do exist but alarm pros would use a monitored path device not a dialler 1 Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axotyl Posted August 8, 2021 Author Share Posted August 8, 2021 (edited) Thanks, al-yeti - I looked at the eBay device, but it doesn't have as many programmable features as either of the two auto-diallers in the original post, and I guess the cost reflects that. James.wilson - I understand that using GSM is unlikely to be as reliable as landlines, but my thinking was that the auto-dialler in the original post would have one SIM card, and there would be a separate card in the Huawei router which would support additional CCTV (plus a weather station), and provide a back-up warning to an intruder. If the cards were with separate providers, then it's unlikely both would fail at the same time, so fail-safe? Both the auto-diallers above have several additional features, and I'm not clear why they would need a separate control panel. I'm just an amateur, and I realise that I'm going to need an installer who's familiar with GSM auto-diallers, to go through the options with us. The property is situated in the BN7 postcode, so would appreciate a professional making contact ( two warehouse/hangars, one needing CCTV/alarm, the other external CCTV monitoring). Edited August 8, 2021 by Axotyl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 It's not the transmission path it's the polling, monitoring has polling. You can't test if a service works without sending something over it, if you only send stuff when it's urgent you don't know if it will fail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axotyl Posted August 8, 2021 Author Share Posted August 8, 2021 Thanks, 6Wheel. Both devices quoted above can be programmed to send test alerts routinely, at varying intervals, and same with CCTV we've been looking at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 test alerts != polling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 Yes proper monitoring will be polled depending on the grade etc Anywhere from every few seconds to once a day. I would always use a panel to connect your detectors to, you need something to arm disarm, power supply battery monitoring logs etc etc Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 23 hours ago, Axotyl said: We've spent a month researching auto-diallers, are you a slow reader ? 23 hours ago, Axotyl said: and have been continually told by installers that they have to have utilise a copper landline, what plonkers have you been talking too ? phone lines are finished for alarm signaling.... you need to put your hand in your pocket & buy a proper alarm from a proper alarm company with proper signaling 1 Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 Lol Quote Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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