New Scottish law on interconnected fire alarms

[colin20]

Hello guys, there is a new Scottish law on having interconnected fire alarms in all houses come February next year.

 

Interconnected seems to mean a wireless system nowadays. My wife hates wi-fi equipment and refuses to have that, and I was wondering if any companies still do interconnection by thin cable between detectors, using 9V battery operated smoke detectors and 9V battery heat detector (kitchen). These used to be around in the 1990's as I installed them before in another house, but can only find wireless type now.

 

I would not mind wiring up 3 smoke detectors and one heat detector with cable. But do not want a 240V AC system , just 9V batteries in each detector with an auxiliary contact in each to get all bells operating at the same time.

 

If you could point me to any companies that still do these systems that would be really good,thanks.

 

PS...Scotland is the first to do this, but i think the rest of the UK will follow, and it is us houseowners that have to pay for it, Grrh!

 

 

[sixwheeledbeast]

Aico 180 series

[al-yeti]

2 hours ago, colin20 said:

Hello guys, there is a new Scottish law on having interconnected fire alarms in all houses come February next year.

 

Interconnected seems to mean a wireless system nowadays. My wife hates wi-fi equipment and refuses to have that, and I was wondering if any companies still do interconnection by thin cable between detectors, using 9V battery operated smoke detectors and 9V battery heat detector (kitchen). These used to be around in the 1990's as I installed them before in another house, but can only find wireless type now.

 

I would not mind wiring up 3 smoke detectors and one heat detector with cable. But do not want a 240V AC system , just 9V batteries in each detector with an auxiliary contact in each to get all bells operating at the same time.

 

If you could point me to any companies that still do these systems that would be really good,thanks.

 

PS...Scotland is the first to do this, but i think the rest of the UK will follow, and it is us houseowners that have to pay for it, Grrh!

 

 

You got a link to the new law?

[MrHappy]

this sorta thing ?

 

 

 

[PeterJames]

12 hours ago, al-yeti said:

You got a link to the new law?

https://www.gov.scot/news/changes-to-fire-safety-laws/             Basically BS5839 Part 6 LD which is installed into new builds and anything that requires building control. New Scottish law says that has to be installed into all existing buildings. Feck knows how they think they are going to Police that though.

 

Colin I do understand that you wife doesnt like the idea of wireless, there are several theories that wireless is the root of all evil. However, the wireless smoke detectors are not transmitting wireless signals all the time, they only transmit when they are activated. So in other words when you have a fire in the hallway it transmits to the landing so both detectors activate. When there are no fires there is no wireless signal so nothing to worry about, I hope this helps

[al-yeti]

1 hour ago, PeterJames said:

https://www.gov.scot/news/changes-to-fire-safety-laws/             Basically BS5839 Part 6 LD which is installed into new builds and anything that requires building control. New Scottish law says that has to be installed into all existing buildings. Feck knows how they think they are going to Police that though.

 

Colin I do understand that you wife doesnt like the idea of wireless, there are several theories that wireless is the root of all evil. However, the wireless smoke detectors are not transmitting wireless signals all the time, they only transmit when they are activated. So in other words when you have a fire in the hallway it transmits to the landing so both detectors activate. When there are no fires there is no wireless signal so nothing to worry about, I hope this helps

It's a start though , so in Scotland you can get fined before something happens , otherwise England? Generally nothing happens until something happens , then they check what was and wasn't done 

 

 

[PeterJames]

27 minutes ago, al-yeti said:

It's a start though , so in Scotland you can get fined before something happens , otherwise England? Generally nothing happens until something happens , then they check what was and wasn't done 

 

 

As I said I dont think Scotland will be able to Police it and so it will be pretty much the same as the UK, ie a fatal fire is investigated and its found that the homeowner did not have interlinked smoke detectors. Mind you if the fatality is the homeowner the gov cant exactly fine them

[al-yeti]

18 hours ago, PeterJames said:

As I said I dont think Scotland will be able to Police it and so it will be pretty much the same as the UK, ie a fatal fire is investigated and its found that the homeowner did not have interlinked smoke detectors. Mind you if the fatality is the homeowner the gov cant exactly fine them

Fatal fire, equipment installed by someone else? 

[PeterJames]

8 hours ago, al-yeti said:

Fatal fire, equipment installed by someone else? 

I was more thinking not installed at all

[colin20]

On 19/09/2021 at 12:13, PeterJames said:

https://www.gov.scot/news/changes-to-fire-safety-laws/             Basically BS5839 Part 6 LD which is installed into new builds and anything that requires building control. New Scottish law says that has to be installed into all existing buildings. Feck knows how they think they are going to Police that though.

 

Colin I do understand that you wife doesnt like the idea of wireless, there are several theories that wireless is the root of all evil. However, the wireless smoke detectors are not transmitting wireless signals all the time, they only transmit when they are activated. So in other words when you have a fire in the hallway it transmits to the landing so both detectors activate. When there are no fires there is no wireless signal so nothing to worry about, I hope this helps

Hello PeterJames, can you give me a website link that shows me and particularly my wife, that the wireless smoke detectors do not transmit all the time and instead only transmit wireless when activated. This would help alleviate my wife's worry about wireless transmitting all the time in a room.

 

Edited September 22, 2021 by colin20