Pre-wired new home alarm advice

[PeterJames]

4 hours ago, RH2021 said:

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Note, I may also speak face to face with a number of installers to get a general consensus on what will meet my needs but I’d prefer not to at this stage. 
 

 

As you are in NI, HKC would be my first choice (that said HKC would be my first choice anyway) I am also a big fan of HA, though I am a bit different from James. I have experimented with using Alexa for arming disarming, I have also used outputs on the alarm to trigger routines, such as courtesy lights on entry exit, or switch off all lights when set. An alarm panel is basically an input output module you are limited as to what you can make the inputs do, send alarm notifications, trigger outputs. The outputs on the panel are also limited especially when disarmed, but there are a few things you can do, access control, switch on lights, the app even has time schedules that can be set and overridden via the app.

 

In reality it is possible to make it do whatever you want, but not everyone has the patients or the time to work out how to make it do what you want it to do. Thats the reason my teleporting system hasnt ever got finished, well that and Heisenberg's uncertainty principle LOL.

 

HKC is also Hybrid and so you can use wireless and hard wired, the devices are two way wireless and quite secure. I would recommend hardwired devices everytime over wireless as you dont have the additional cost of batteries but having a back-up of

wireless is really handy especially if you want to add window contacts somewhere, or you have a outbuilding that you want to include.

 

It doesnt work with ITTT but you can interface inputs with outputs that do  

 

Your problem will be finding a company willing to work with you on it, many co's are uncomfortable stepping out of the traditional burglar alarm stuff, but with good reason.

[RH2021]

5 hours ago, PeterJames said:

As you are in NI, HKC would be my first choice (that said HKC would be my first choice anyway) I am also a big fan of HA, though I am a bit different from James. I have experimented with using Alexa for arming disarming, I have also used outputs on the alarm to trigger routines, such as courtesy lights on entry exit, or switch off all lights when set. An alarm panel is basically an input output module you are limited as to what you can make the inputs do, send alarm notifications, trigger outputs. The outputs on the panel are also limited especially when disarmed, but there are a few things you can do, access control, switch on lights, the app even has time schedules that can be set and overridden via the app.

 

In reality it is possible to make it do whatever you want, but not everyone has the patients or the time to work out how to make it do what you want it to do. Thats the reason my teleporting system hasnt ever got finished, well that and Heisenberg's uncertainty principle LOL.

 

HKC is also Hybrid and so you can use wireless and hard wired, the devices are two way wireless and quite secure. I would recommend hardwired devices everytime over wireless as you dont have the additional cost of batteries but having a back-up of

wireless is really handy especially if you want to add window contacts somewhere, or you have a outbuilding that you want to include.

 

It doesnt work with ITTT but you can interface inputs with outputs that do  

 

Your problem will be finding a company willing to work with you on it, many co's are uncomfortable stepping out of the traditional burglar alarm stuff, but with good reason.

Thanks for the detailed response Peter. I was looking at Texecom and Veritas as well as Boundary. More research required I think.

[PeterJames]

Texecom Premier is the bigger panel these will work with Elan, though the customers we have with Premiers connected to their Elan HA never use the HA for anything on their alarm

[GalaxyGuy]

11 hours ago, RH2021 said:

Thanks for the detailed response Peter. I was looking at Texecom and Veritas as well as Boundary. More research required I think.

Take a look at the Honeywell Dimension and Flex too.  We have a few hundred customers integrating their systems with the SelfMon vmod.

 

The vmod is a virtualisation module that also provides MQTT connectivity to gain control and status of the panels. It's about moving the complex logic into the HA system and away from the vendor lock-in of the control panel firmware, while keeping the robust 24x7 security of the panel.

 

I would definitely recommend using MQTT as your main HA protocol going forwards, as it's open and really easy to use.

[MrHappy]

18 hours ago, RH2021 said:

Veritas as well as Boundary.

 

You need a bit of Logic 4 other wise a salesman with a bit of Karmiza, might want to charge you the earth or the whole Galaxy, getting a bill which would need an Abacus to add up ? 

 

I not sure how you'd get the Optima from your budget, but if you lucky you might be under budget & have a few left over for a Mosaic ?

[norman]

Lol

[james.wilson]

 

46 minutes ago, MrHappy said:

 

You need a bit of Logic 4 other wise a salesman with a bit of Karmiza, might want to charge you the earth or the whole Galaxy, getting a bill which would need an Abacus to add up ? 

 

I not sure how you'd get the Optima from your budget, but if you lucky you might be under budget & have a few left over for a Mosaic ?

very good

 

OP the veritas is a very budget system

[sixwheeledbeast]

1 hour ago, MrHappy said:

 

You need a bit of Logic 4 other wise a salesman with a bit of Karmiza, might want to charge you the earth or the whole Galaxy, getting a bill which would need an Abacus to add up ? 

 

I not sure how you'd get the Optima from your budget, but if you lucky you might be under budget & have a few left over for a Mosaic ?

 

Sterling 10 job there the Ultimate Symphony of panels

[PeterJames]

2 hours ago, MrHappy said:

 

You need a bit of Logic 4 other wise a salesman with a bit of Karmiza, might want to charge you the earth or the whole Galaxy, getting a bill which would need an Abacus to add up ? 

 

I not sure how you'd get the Optima from your budget, but if you lucky you might be under budget & have a few left over for a Mosaic ?

Bit of a Paragon there Dave you could have accenta bill in for that my little rascal countess, from windsor

[MrHappy]

1 hour ago, PeterJames said:

Bit of a Paragon there Dave you could have accenta bill in for that my little rascal countess, from windsor

 

If logan was still in Communication all this panel talk would bring him to a DA Climax ?