HomeKit Upgrade

[PeterJames]

6 minutes ago, Mike. said:

 

 

 

I'm sure experienced HA folk would also laugh at my Phillips Hue Motion sensors,

Fixed

6 minutes ago, Mike. said:

Your setup sounds quite similar to what I'm trying to achieve.

You will need a different panel altogether, but you could still use the existing sensors

 

[Mike.]

@sixwheeledbeast

 

Thanks for the advice and your perspective. Blearing a siren down my street and annoying the neighbours whilst I'm blisfully unaware is not a useful security system in my eyes. Adding some brains to this unit seems like a good way to improve security without breaking the bank. I agree that occupancy sensing isn't perfect, but I must say that soo far, Apple are doing a fantastic job with HomeKit. My current setup allows for the alarm to be set when we go to sleep, and when the last person has left the house. If motion is detected I will be notified silently, but will have the option to sound the siren if I so desire. Hell I could even have the authorities contacted automatically if I wanted. The possibilities are endless!

 

You do raise a fair point, and one that I will consider for the future when I'm able to upgrade my alarm system. I'm just trying to have something rather than nothing at this point in time. Forgetting to set the intruder alarm is our number 1 reason for not using the alarm right now, so I guess my aim is to overcome that, and throw in some additional features while I'm at it.

[james.wilson]

I can understand arming it via ha but I'd never recommend disarming that way

 

 

4 minutes ago, Mike. said:

Hell I could even have the authorities contacted automatically if I wanted.

No you couldn't. You need a URN to do that. 

 

[PeterJames]

Ive never forgotten to set my alarm .....but then I have seen enough houses that have been burgled in my lifetime to make me not forget.

 

There are decent alarm systems out there that you can arm by app. But you could just use HA and geofencing via tasker on every ones mobile phone to arm it, if you are that lazy.

[Mike.]

7 minutes ago, PeterJames said:

Fixed

 

I'm now curious what kind of tech could possibly exists that would make a Phillips PIR any less useful as opposed to a traditional PIR.

[PeterJames]

3 minutes ago, james.wilson said:

 

 

 

No you couldn't. You need a URN to do that. 

 

qfa

 

[PeterJames]

6 minutes ago, Mike. said:

 

I'm now curious what kind of tech could possibly exists that would make a Phillips PIR any less useful as opposed to a traditional PIR.

 

[Mike.]

Just now, PeterJames said:

Ive never forgotten to set my alarm .....but then I have seen enough houses that have been burgled in my lifetime to make me not forget.

 

There are decent alarm systems out there that you can arm by app. But you could just use HA and geofencing via tasker on every ones mobile phone to arm it, if you are that lazy.

 

I guess you could say that I am lucky to not have witnessed such awful happenings in my life, but it comes at great cost to me, considering that I do not associate setting the alarm as an important task, I'm quite forgetful by nature and so I rely on the robots to do it for me.

 

Geofencing is an option, even more robust when combined with sensing device online presence within the local network. This is what HomeKit does. I'd like to contain the system to as few applications as possible. Currently running Homebridge & NodeRED.

[james.wilson]

12 minutes ago, Mike. said:

 

There is a product called konnected Iirc but I can't see the point of it when you can use a panel that can do it directly. You must remember our primary focus here is security and reliability. Most of the time isn't good enough in the security sector

[MrHappy]

22 minutes ago, Mike. said:

Perhaps I could add a backup battery to my board with low voltage detection, in addition I could add GSM module if the WiFi is offline.

 

 

sounds like a pile of poop... 

 

say you house was instantly destroyed by a meteorite, there's nothing left but a smouldering crater in the ground

 

there has been nothing signalled from the property yet a proper alarm with proper alarm signalling would inform the keyholders that the system has been lost...  

 

 

22 minutes ago, Mike. said:

Is there any reason for using a relay instead of a voltage regulator? The voltage coming from PIR is just a signal right? It's not powering anything as such so would imagine there's minimal current?

 

 

The zone circuit from your alarm are positive loop, the sensor has a voltage free relay with series resistor it will measure a certain value dependant on the manufacturer, lets guess at texecom medusa say 18ohms + the value of the cable run circuit will measure 20 ohms 

 

I neither know or care what voltage comes out of the zone of a 700l, however the sensor will have relay which is probably good for up to 50volts, use the sensor to control a relay for the alarm & relay for the HA

 

Given a big enough bag of relays you should be able to switch just about anything or have massive electrical fire depending on you ability, however you mickey mouse alarm doesn't really have much in the way of input or outputs

 

Personally I'd choose an intruder alarm controls & HA system which marry up together... something like control4 & texecom will cost thousands