[Split - Hiya, just saw this site...] The Perfect Panel?

[al-yeti]

1 hour ago, Ubermik said:

I've been to loads of post burglary jobs in the last 30 odd years and regardless of the polycarb box theyre easily smashed off the wall with whatever tools they used to break in, some were then for some unfathomable reason put in the sink with the taps turned on

Others they just opened the lid and cut the SW- for the bell, which is generally just 2 screws

So as theyre already easy to smash or pull off the wall by Neanderthals and are even easier for someone with a bit of knowledge to silence without even needing to damage them at all having a few extra 4mm holes that match up to existing panels really isnt a big deal at all. It would make replacing a faulty panel or upgrading an old one MUCH easier if it had pre matched holes for common makes like the veritas R8 for example, would save time and have literally no real downside as I doubt even a couple of extra 4mm holes in panels that already have wiring access holes that are several inches square is a big deal, and to quell the doom and gloom brigade that think they might just fall off the wall if looked at then the plastic not used by adding the holes could be relocated to make reinforced shoulders around each hole when the injection moulding pattern is made 

By the time somebody has gained access to the panel it doesnt really make any difference if it has more holes less holes or is polycarb or plastic, it WILL take practically the same amount of time to smash it off the wall or undo the cover screws regardless

 

Good system will signal before it comes off wall ,

 

Your to emotional lol

[sixwheeledbeast]

You want the cab to either stay on the wall or come off as a whole unit, not shear apart for the tamper to be guaranteed to work.

Panel tamper being triggered vital to sending a tamper or confirmed to ARC in good time for all system designs. It's not about the damage to the system often the panel and nearby wiring is likely wrecked anyway. 

We all know as installers, taking stuff apart the way it's suppose to is the quickest way to isolate but that would always require some knowledge and importantly trigger the tamper.

Metal cab would usually have a back tamper mechanism as required by G3 but you can't put wireless in a metal cab.

 

Your not going to achieve the standard holes your aspiring to.

It's just a non-issue as well TBH, rarely can I not get cables into a takeover easily and on those occasions I'd usually blame the stupid installer that did the last panel not the kit.

We are engineers I'm not aspiring to a velcro backed DIY box with no arse end for ease of cable entry.

 

You seem to have many complaints about price, I can say for the R8 example as I fit Texe; why would they provide a budget DIY panel that no decent installer should be fitting any more with an app that they would get no ROI from...

Touchscreen and apps all user driven gimmicks IMO, they drive up the price but add minimal functionality.

I honestly think the functionality you get for your money is decent but much of it gets under sold or utilised.

 

 

[MrHappy]

7 hours ago, Ubermik said:

And yeah, that guy needs to go back to wherever he paid to take his basket weaving course and demand a refund 

 

was fitted in the 1990's

 

Optima 2+ metal ES + 8440

then, TS690 + DC6

 

The 280 with its big hole for wiring making the job easier than daft 20mm holes 

 

8 hours ago, Ubermik said:

I have to be honest I wouldnt mind trying one of the Orico is it? Panels

The only thing that put me off was the fact that its a direct selling model rather than being able to just pop into the nearest wholesaler to get one

 

 

I'm not a member of the cult...

 

Its just texecom mk2 stuff sold like gardtec

[Barsnake]

On 01/09/2023 at 20:01, al-yeti said:

So you have a pre release ? Come on get started 

yes and its been flashed by pyronix several times, had a techie out everytime, glad i was away on holiday at the time

dont know how long its going to be before there a stable one

need another one for a job    but hanging on..........and on......and on......

Edited September 11, 2023 by Barsnake