ADAM90 Posted Monday at 11:19 Author Posted Monday at 11:19 a close up! Im just thinking guys maybe its the small INTERNAL STROBE/SIREN IVE ALSO Wired up to the same terminals as the exterior bell box? Quote
ADAM90 Posted Monday at 11:21 Author Posted Monday at 11:21 this one has a cheap tamper inside it small and flimsy Quote
sixwheeledbeast Posted Monday at 12:24 Posted Monday at 12:24 The wiring is poorly terminated but it doesn't look loose... There are no resistors required for compatible panels/inputs. You shouldn't mix G3 Aux Fault and Aux Tampers together, but it doesn't seem to have been wired it like that anyway. You haven't terminated the test terminal at the panel from what I see, so it's not doing the G3 periodic testing which I expected to be part of the issue. I'd say it's DIY so just follow the instructions for Grade 2 installation using 5 wires. Make sure the bell hold off and battery works see if the fault clears. Quote
MrHappy Posted Monday at 12:56 Posted Monday at 12:56 1 hour ago, ADAM90 said: this one has a cheap tamper inside it small and flimsy Elmdene Int500, The controls has plenty of spare zones & outputs, I would not have double things up, whilst the alarm is unset walk up to the internal speaker / internal sab.... firmly strike it with the handle of a no. 2 pozi or similar. If if goes into tamper adjust it so it does not.... If you can't strike into tamper, do the same trick to the external bell, remember the switch in on the internal cover no on the external lid Quote Mr Veritas God
ADAM90 Posted Monday at 13:06 Author Posted Monday at 13:06 THANKS FOR ALL THE REPLIES how do i do this: You haven't terminated the test terminal at the panel from what I see, so it's not doing the G3 periodic testing which I expected to be part of the issue. Im thinking its that internal siren thats bad! im not sure how to wire that "internal speaker up separately? i tidied up the external and seems okay looking also tidy neatened up the wires all 8 x cores being used, seems ok i can also hear the micro switch clicking etc When i let go of the tamper the external siren sounds! Im looking hopefully at it being at the "control panel side? or that small cheaply made internal speaker! Quote
MrHappy Posted Monday at 13:17 Posted Monday at 13:17 (edited) They pee me off as to keep on the shelf as complete unit they live in plaggy bags, 3" is non std screw length, the underside is labeled or the wrong item get s sent out they all have screw on the inside of the inner cover, they adjust to make contact with the micro switch 3" screw leaves 47mm or there abouts in the wall which is just over the minimum in 4737 of 1.5" ? Edited Monday at 13:22 by MrHappy Quote Mr Veritas God
MrHappy Posted Monday at 13:23 Posted Monday at 13:23 don'y change any wiring until you have work out is the tamper switches remain closed when lightly bashed Quote Mr Veritas God
sixwheeledbeast Posted Monday at 13:41 Posted Monday at 13:41 If it's "Aux fault" and not "bell tamper" then I don't think it would be the bell tamper? I recall EN was minimum 2" fixings for warning devices but I don't remember if it was overall screw length or penetration. It is daft to have 2" screw and more than half of it not in the wall. I don't like these for this either but it apparently makes them easier to be lazy measuring up for drilling. Quote
ADAM90 Posted Monday at 14:14 Author Posted Monday at 14:14 The BELL Tamper came on when i was testing it all Since went off so im guessing its the internal siren? It did say AUX Before but for now hasnt reappeared? Im going on holiday and need it 100% Quote
ADAM90 Posted Monday at 14:32 Author Posted Monday at 14:32 ON keypad said BELL FAULT When opened, so the AUX message thats disappeared for now couldn't of been the issue with the bell tamper Tapped hard on the internal siren didnt do anything seems okay again for now Quote
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