Pot Man Posted Monday at 15:06 Posted Monday at 15:06 Hi My house alarm has a fully working C&K Securit 800L Panel with a analogue SD1+ autodialler. BT have now 'upgraded' my phone line to digital and the autodialler is now redundant. I've purchased and fitted a GJD710 GSM Communicator with the 3 existing wires coming from the panel (+ - and trigger). This works and the dialler rings my mobile when the panel is activated. My problem is that the when the old autodialler rang my mobile, I would press 8 on my mobile keypad and the alarm & siren would switch off. I can't see anyway the new communicator can do this. Does anyone have any advice so I can get this working as before ? Thanks Quote
sixwheeledbeast Posted Monday at 16:47 Posted Monday at 16:47 I'm sure it will be in the manual, the GJD ones are * key from memory. Just hope your mobile network of choice doesn't update now... Quote
PeterJames Posted Monday at 17:33 Posted Monday at 17:33 2 hours ago, Pot Man said: Hi My house alarm has a fully working C&K Securit 800L Panel with a analogue SD1+ autodialler. BT have now 'upgraded' my phone line to digital and the autodialler is now redundant. I've purchased and fitted a GJD710 GSM Communicator with the 3 existing wires coming from the panel (+ - and trigger). This works and the dialler rings my mobile when the panel is activated. My problem is that the when the old autodialler rang my mobile, I would press 8 on my mobile keypad and the alarm & siren would switch off. I can't see anyway the new communicator can do this. Does anyone have any advice so I can get this working as before ? Thanks If you only had three wires coming from your panel 12vdc and trigger how did the SD1 switch off the external sounder? IIRC the SD1 just stopped calling you when you pressed 8. I dont think it rearmed your alarm, and I dont think that the 800L had an input that allowed you to rearm or disable the sounder Quote
al-yeti Posted Monday at 18:50 Posted Monday at 18:50 1 hour ago, PeterJames said: If you only had three wires coming from your panel 12vdc and trigger how did the SD1 switch off the external sounder? IIRC the SD1 just stopped calling you when you pressed 8. I dont think it rearmed your alarm, and I dont think that the 800L had an input that allowed you to rearm or disable the sounder Something i even tell app users , if you disarm in error rearm otherwise don't disarm just cos you get a call or notification, Maybe he means remotely that's what he thinks happens ? Or does the panel have a key switch input? Which triggers via dialler ? Quote
PeterJames Posted Monday at 20:20 Posted Monday at 20:20 1 hour ago, al-yeti said: Maybe he means remotely that's what he thinks happens ? Or does the panel have a key switch input? Which triggers via dialler ? Not with three wires though Quote
Pot Man Posted Tuesday at 08:23 Author Posted Tuesday at 08:23 Thank you for your replies. Yes, the 3 wires from the panel was a puzzle to me too but I was convinced the alarm could be switched off remotely when activated - guess I was wrong ! I can only recall the alarm going off 2x in the 22 years it's been fitted. One time I wasn't far away from home and by the time I returned home the alarm & siren had stopped so maybe that the panel was set to sound the alarm only for a short pre-determined period making me think the remote disablement had worked. A follow up question - Are there alarm panels available today which can enable/disable the alarm remotely if required ? If so, any recommendations! Quote
sixwheeledbeast Posted Tuesday at 10:49 Posted Tuesday at 10:49 The better solution would have been to upgrade the panel to something with more modern connectivity. PSTN and GSM are both planned to be discontinued in the near future. A new panel could connect to services like notifications or monitoring and also have an app to provide remote control of the system. Pretty much all manufacturers charge for this service and require a registered installer to fit them. Quote
PeterJames Posted Tuesday at 12:35 Posted Tuesday at 12:35 1 hour ago, sixwheeledbeast said: The better solution would have been to upgrade the panel to something with more modern connectivity. PSTN and GSM are both planned to be discontinued in the near future. A new panel could connect to services like notifications or monitoring and also have an app to provide remote control of the system. Pretty much all manufacturers charge for this service and require a registered installer to fit them. QFA most decent panels come with an app now so you have complete control, arm/disarm omit faulty zones and arm. The service isnt free but probably cheaper than a PAYG SIM and it would have to go through an installer. If your GSM dialler has an output you could wire the output through the sounder circuit, but you would need to understand at least the basics to do it, the fact that you have asked the question makes me think you wont be able to DIY this Quote
Pot Man Posted Wednesday at 09:22 Author Posted Wednesday at 09:22 Thanks again for your replies. As a DIY'er I've gone as far as I can (with your help) and I'm happy that the system works and the GSM dialler is now set to function as I want it. I may consider a panel upgrade in the future but I've decided to stick with what I've got as it all works ! Quote
sixwheeledbeast Posted Wednesday at 09:37 Posted Wednesday at 09:37 That's fine. Just note that if your using a PAYG SIM you need to make sure it doesn't expire by sending messages regularly. Also you'll have to keep an eye on the signal to make sure the network is still working. Pretty much all mobile providers have set dates to decommission older phone masts, some have started already. You can't rely on your mobile phone signal as a tell, it will likely use 4G assuming your phone is newer than your alarm... Monitoring has the benefit of polling which continuously checks the device can send/receive messages for those times you need it. Quote
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