Guest Posted January 30, 2005 Posted January 30, 2005 OK, the other way then, if you're using secondary mod-taps, is to connect pin 3 of the master socket (white\orange) to pin 2 on the patch panel (orange) in addition to Simons connections.
amateurandy Posted January 30, 2005 Posted January 30, 2005 If you've got master sockets that then feed the patch panels you've got to use slave/extension mod-taps to plug your phone cable into. Best to get your multimeter out on the mod-taps and verify that they're wired up to carry the ring signal, and on which connector. Then just wire up the other end the same.
Simon_B Posted January 30, 2005 Posted January 30, 2005 OK, the other way then, if you're using secondary mod-taps, is to connect pin 3 of the master socket (white\orange) to pin 2 on the patch panel (orange) in addition to Simons connections. 38794[/snapback] You need to check, I have come across secondary mod-taps where there is no connection to RJ45 Pin2 internally and hence the bell-wire is not passed. Best tyo check before rewiring it in. Simon ToneTel Telecom www.tonetel.co.uk
Smart Electrics Posted January 30, 2005 Posted January 30, 2005 And remember no more than 4 REN of each line as this will affect the Ringing cadesence any more than 4 will need a ring booster or equivalent
amateurandy Posted January 30, 2005 Posted January 30, 2005 By the way, Mod-Tap is a manufacturer of all sorts of stuff and is now Molex. To quote their web site: "MOD-TAP (now known as Molex Premise Networks)," The devices you want are actually called LAU's (Line Adapter Units). Se, for example, these sold by Inmac. RJ45 to BT adapter
Guest Posted January 30, 2005 Posted January 30, 2005 I wondered if anyone was going to mention the mod-tap\LAU thing! Regarding the REN, most modern handsets are actually well under ! so you can quite easily go way past 4 and not suffer any problems. Just stop adding phones when they don't ring any more!
Smart Electrics Posted January 30, 2005 Posted January 30, 2005 I agree lurch about the REN but you will be amazed how many faults I do a week regarding the REN. The worst offenders are Binatone, Samsung, and the Panasonic DECT types. Also allot of the older Phillips DECTs gave a lot of problems It also doesn
Lectrician Posted January 30, 2005 Posted January 30, 2005 I wired a huge house recently, and installed a 48way patch panel. We also fitted a small (4-16) PBX, and patched this to the panel. Direct lines from the NTE where patched to outlets aswell, using secondary modtaps. I will try to find the numbers we used. We had a patchpanel wired with the RJ45's with the 16 exn's, and the direct lines, so these could be patched to the panels above. Email : martin@askthetrades.co.uk
Simon_B Posted January 30, 2005 Posted January 30, 2005 Direct lines from the NTE where patched to outlets aswell, using secondary modtaps. 38856[/snapback] But.. remember some telephones have a built-in capacitor so do not require the bell wire (whether is is passed through or not), seem to remember a lot of Interquartz phones have this. It is definetly RJ45/Patchpanel terminal number 2 (orange) which cross connects the bell wire from terminal 3 in the LJU or direct from NTE5a. Just as long as the Mod-Tap/LAU supports it. Simon ToneTel Telecom www.tonetel.co.uk
Nova-Security Posted January 31, 2005 Author Posted January 31, 2005 to all for the help with the missing ring wire, full day on sunday taken up with this, it works (not got i clue) can i now be call a network engineer ? www.nova-security.co.uk www.nsiapproved.co.uk No PMs please unless i know you or you are using this board with your proper name.
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