Texecom Premiere 88 - for 5 flats

[Guest j3tlk]

I can see your points.

The main reason for one pannel is so it can be remotly logged into and codes for new and old tennents edited, as well as only having one system to maintain and one set of outputs.

I take your point of having the keypads outside the flats, but they are effectivly in a secure area as they will all be internal and any intruder would have to pass through two large automated proximity gates. Plus CCTV is being utilised on the outside and inside of the building.

Personally I do not see the difference in having a keypad on the inside or outside. If on the inside yes the alarm will be triggered by the main door before the intruder gets to the alarm keypad. But on the outside if the keypad is removed it will activate as a tamper.

I will give it some thought, the other option is to install a small prox reader on the outside of the flat and have a none prox keypad on the inside, making it compliant with the standards but achieveing the same outcome at no extra cost.

Does anyone know how to wire a standalone prox reader to a tex panel to deactivate the system, and I guess this is not possible on one panel for 5 flats?

Thanks again for all your assistance.

TOM

[Guest securityconsultant]

[stay away from a standalone prox as it will take away any on line logging .

You could and will need to put a keypad in the lobby witch will disarm the common area and the ness flat whe the first person enters the building .

Texecom were looking at a prox which could be fixed to the inside of a glass panel that will then allow the prox to work from the outside .

Hope it helps

[Guest RICHL]

The keypads should be out of sight J3TLK as they can indicate the status of the system/area ie set/unset.

[breff]

Any standalone prox can be interfaced to arm/disarm, just program a zone as latch key, open circuit=armed, closed circuit=disarmed. As long as the prox is tampered.

[datadiffusion]

Generally, our experience of these set-ups is that there is one major flaw - the users!

It sounds just a little complex to me, so I have a feeling it will definately fox the users. And the result will be false alarms I guess...!

I'd definately go with the small panels solution and a seperate entry system, whatever that may be. Is there really a need for an alarm in the communcal areas if it has CCTV and access control? (Although you or a surveyor are the only people that can actually answer that of course).

If you are worried about old codes in the flats, just give the new tennent the old code and a sheet of paper letting them know how to change the code. If they dont, its their problem. A decent entry system will make sure old users who havent returned their cards etc... wont be let in.

Just my 2p!

[secboy]

Which ever way you go with this If you want to cover the fact that it may not comply and may not be the best solution i would get a disclaimer signed by the customer and make sure that you have it in writing that you will get a fixed attendance fee even during the first 12mnths because as sure as god made little green apples your going to be running back and forth to this from the word go,personally I would walk away from it but thats the point of view of someone who has worked within nacoss standards for 20yrs and surprisingly perhapes acheived nacoss A1 inspection grades!!!!!!.Paul.