Panel Pictures Please.

[Guest]

Flexable cable comes through the back of the panel on a gromet (IIRC) it comes out of the back of the fused spur into the back of the panel therefore is consealed within fabric of building therefore fixed wiring

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The alarm is a fixed appliance as it supplied via fuse spur(not in pic) Hence flexable wiring?

You can't see if the wiring is conclealed, pic only shows the endstation, the flex may be clipped surface?

[Guest]

Sorry for hogging this topic, but I found some more panel pics on my pc,

Again their posted in the rogues gallery because their not quite perfect.

Another premier 48 with flex cable tie missing.

And a castle care euro meridian with grommet strip missing, which comes ex works with elected telephone line enrty with factory fitted grommet & cable tie. Its required for babt / ctr21 I believe Monty

[jb-eye]

The alarm is a fixed appliance as it supplied via fuse spur(not in pic) Hence flexable wiring?

You can't see if the wiring is conclealed, pic only shows the endstation, the flex may be clipped surface?

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"Fixed Equipment" Now either im looking at the wrong thing or there is a flex coming through the back of the panel and it does NOT have any means of securing it by TRS, Compression gland or cable retainer. I doubt the panel is(but it may be) supported off the wall doubt it by the look of those screws, and for that reason alone i would suggest that the installer has used the flex as fixed wiring (or worse compressed it to the wall when fixing). I thought the idea was to find fault. Im not trying to assassinate anyone

Jef

[breff]

When I was looking at the pic myself Jef, I thought I should have cable tied the incoming flex.

[norman]

This could become confusing.

[Truss and France]

I cant beleive you lot, look if a jobs worth doing then do it properly:

All holes where cables pass through to have grommets.

Use 3 core flex from spur to panel.

Leave wires long enough in the paenel for any changes that should occur.

Clearly mark cables up.

BT line to have its own cable entry.

Twist zone wires together in pairs so that we know what wires go where.

If you follow the above, then you cant go wrong or get critised.

On the other hand if your jobs are being inspected and the above is not being picked up then Im lost for words.

Do it right!

Kevin

[norman]

I cant beleive you lot, look if a jobs worth doing then do it properly:

Use 3 core flex from spur to panel.

Kevin

I disagree.

[jb-eye]

I disagree.

Norman if you disagree then i assume you are making ref. to the use of solid core cable. This is fine as long as it

[norman]

I was referring to dropping out of the rear of the spur and into the cavity, not made myself very clear, I was still a little hungover.

[Paul Giles]

Think we had this before ref flex vs 6242Y ?

Flex is the preferred method and a BS as far as i can remember to connect from a spur?

6242Y is the preferred choice as Jef pointed out when concealed in the fabric, such as kitchens etc.

But to be honest as long as its all done properly e.g earth sleeving and doubled over (1.0mm) then its not really worth any aggro.

I have seen a lot of installs by the others using the white of 4 core etc as the earth sleeving!