Guest beowulf_pt Posted August 29, 2005 Posted August 29, 2005 Hello all, I have little or no experience with alarm kits but am thinking about buying something for my place. Any tips will be great. Some info: -I want to protect a 5th floor apartment with fairly small divisions. 4 rooms in total, each with one window. Plus the main door. -Ideally, I'd prefer a wireless kit. -I have zero experience with alarms or alarm kits, but would prefer to buy it and install it myself if possible. Main requirements would be -being fairly easy to install/having decent tech support/documentation -reliable (no false alarms, not very easy to cancel) -with some kind of GSM capability so I can be warned by SMS or voice when the thing goes off (I do not have a phone line installed so a GSM SIM card is the only way). -With the ability to disconnect an area, for instance to stay in the bedroom at night while the rest of the house is active. -Ability to monitor the battery status of the sensors easily without having to keep testing/hoping they're working. -I cannot afford any solution over 700 euros at the time. I've seen the Honeywell Domonial brochure and it seems similar to what I wanted but I do not know how good it is. Any brand/kit/place to order internationally suggestions are welcome. Also, are these wireless systems easier to jam or bypass than regular cable systems? Thanks,
Guest Posted August 29, 2005 Posted August 29, 2005 ...Some info: ... -Ideally, I'd prefer a wireless kit. ... ... ... Thanks, 66251[/snapback] ...Some info: ... ... ... ... Also, are these wireless systems easier to jam or bypass than regular cable systems? Thanks, 66251[/snapback] NEVER EVER trust to WIRELESS **** :!: .
Guest beowulf_pt Posted August 29, 2005 Posted August 29, 2005 NEVER EVER trust to WIRELESS CRAP :!: . 66253[/snapback] Hmm, can you elaborate on that negative opinion?
j.paul Posted August 29, 2005 Posted August 29, 2005 I've seen the Honeywell Domonial brochure and it seems similar to what I wanted but I do not know how good it is. Any brand/kit/place to order internationally suggestions are welcome. Also, are these wireless systems easier to jam or bypass than regular cable systems? Thanks, 66251[/snapback] The Domonial is not a bad panel, you could also look at the Scantronic's "Homelink 75 Wirefree system" Homelink75 Both are class 6 systems with GSM capability.. There are no stupid questions, but there are a LOT of inquisitive idiots.
gla.ssfp Posted August 29, 2005 Posted August 29, 2005 Have you fitted any domonial panels then? We had the demo but I am still not really convinced I have heard they are a bit of a pain to program but seemed straight forward when they gave us the demo, Bit of an outlay for the PDA though Not sure if I would want one in my own house, Still prefer my good old Galaxy
Guest Posted August 29, 2005 Posted August 29, 2005 Hmm, can you elaborate on that negative opinion? 66256[/snapback] i could if i would but this particular opinion has been discussed SO many times within this forum that i don't want to repeat myself for a while. so you must use the search tool now. shortly: wireless can be jammed with less than £5 equipment. searching of the jammer needs £5000+ equipment.
morph Posted August 29, 2005 Posted August 29, 2005 i could if i would but this particular opinion has been discussed SO many times within this forum that i don't want to repeat myself for a while.so you must use the search tool now. shortly: wireless can be jammed with less than £5 equipment. searching of the jammer needs £5000+ equipment. 66265[/snapback] That would be why most modern panels have Jamming detection built in and as with any alarm system responds accordingly. Georg, you like any other forum member is entitled to an opinion on a product, but when you make predjudiced and uninformed posts without actually having used the current range of wireless equipment. Also there are load of **** wireless panels on the market, also a lot of good ones, likewise there are a load of **** wired systems on the market, also a lot of good ones. To simply say wireless is **** because it can be jammed is like saying wired is cap because it can be tampered. Both wired and wirless systems have there uses. Out of interest Georg, exactly how many wired systems have you installed and over what period and what types, what do you base your opinion on? or is this infromed opinion from bench tests etc.
morph Posted August 29, 2005 Posted August 29, 2005 Have you fitted any domonial panels then?We had the demo but I am still not really convinced I have heard they are a bit of a pain to program but seemed straight forward when they gave us the demo, Bit of an outlay for the PDA though Not sure if I would want one in my own house, Still prefer my good old Galaxy 66262[/snapback] From the ones we have installed, they function well and initial problems with battery life have been resolved. Like any new panel programming is a pain, until you get to know it, Laptop is best though. Did honeywell do the Demo, the PDA was cheap enough Galaxy are best, but the Domonial is recieving a good reception from customers.
Guest Posted August 29, 2005 Posted August 29, 2005 That would be why most modern panels have Jamming detection built in and as with any alarm system responds accordingly.Georg, you like any other forum member is entitled to an opinion on a product, but when you make predjudiced and uninformed posts without actually having used the current range of wireless equipment. Also there are load of **** wireless panels on the market, also a lot of good ones, likewise there are a load of **** wired systems on the market, also a lot of good ones. To simply say wireless is **** because it can be jammed is like saying wired is cap because it can be tampered. Both wired and wirless systems have there uses. Out of interest Georg, exactly how many wired systems have you installed and over what period and what types, what do you base your opinion on? or is this infromed opinion from bench tests etc. 66267[/snapback] Oh Col, I do not use wireless equipment BECAUSE IT IS ****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (that is meant to be shouted to your ear with maximum voice level i can produce) there is no prejudgement just judgement. of course every wireless **** has an antijam feature, but didn't i say quite clearly that the detection gear for the jammer COSTS £5000+ !!???!??!??!!!!?? **************************************************************************** tampered wired **** doesn't need special tools to find the fault and can be fixed easily + leaves a clear stamp it has been tampered with a purpose (unlike wireless **** that are situated close to taxi ranks there). wireless has its very little use while wired is being installed. how many wireless systems have i installed? two many! (and that means two (2) if you got lost in translation) Come on fellas, lets not start mud slinging, keep it calm and rational
morph Posted August 29, 2005 Posted August 29, 2005 Thats what I like a nice calm rational explanation as to why Wireless is **** *********************************************************************************** You were asked to explain your position, of which you seam clearly unable to do so. Wirless do have a place in the marketplace, manufacturers didn't just dream up the idea overnight. The industry is evolving and so is equipment, its a fact and you have to except it. If your really saying your basing your opinion on TWO systems, well that really does explain allot. Lets calm down a bit and be nice
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