help!!!how do wire my pir's???

[matthew.brough]

Nothing at all to stop bob the butcher from doing so (and they do)

[dazoman1]

so you agree each individual should be qualified ?

 

Or trained to a standard.. Like fire detections has its FIA courses

 

maybe intruder should have NSI courses?

[matthew.brough]

so you agree each individual should be qualified ?

Or trained to a standard.. Like fire detections has its FIA courses

maybe intruder should have NSI courses?

I believe each individual should have to prove competence and continued proof of competence. Fire detection has no mandatory requirements so the fia courses are pure voluntary.

[dazoman1]

but FIA is still a body which allows to show knowledge and competence, where intruder does not?

 

I applied for a vacancies and they kept saying they wanted FIA engineers, ive studied for 3 years for my NVQ 3 in fire detection and they wanted a person that attended a day course?

 

^ went abit off topic

 

but still they should be enforcing NSI training or some sort of competence training on intruder !

[matthew.brough]

I think the fia is brilliant in what they offer and no slur offered. The problem is the only people who will do them are people that care which the vast majority do not.

I was looking at a load of public sector contracts for maintenance of fire alarms. Awarding criteria. Price. With the customer wanting to pay tuppence is it any wonder alarm companies cut so many corners?

[dazoman1]

some corners should not be cut!

 

attended a site with a break in, bells onlys, bell was not serviced correctly so didn't go off and internal bell was pulled off the wall?

 

On all services especially on a bells only contract, that ext bell should be looked and tested each time I don't mean do a output test blah blah I mean get up there give it a clean and check it correctly, really narks me that not a lot of people do... and for the internal bell! well that should of been installed a lot higher then arms length.

 

its just commen sense that no one follows

[matthew.brough]

This is however the commercial reality of the industry we are in. I don't say I like it but I've learnt to live with it.

[Cubit]

We've made the threat before (hence why I did mine 10 years ago) but Adrian seemed to have confidence?

I've explained before, it ain't gonna happen without there being a **** up.

Step forward all the managers and owners with relevant quals?

Come on now, don't all rush at once.

scenario

so a butcher looking for a new carrer that installed his own house alarm and a friends, now joins a alarm company ( blagged his way in ) is out installing and service alarm systems, does he know what hes doing ?

simple things like a grade 3 is he putting the screw for the back tamper or just going top and bottom fixings ?!?

We've all seen enough evidence to show there are many out there currently that haven't a Scooby. Chaps and companies alike.

using the old fallback of accreditation is frankly, laughable

[norman]

No one's likely to die.

[matthew.brough]

No one's likely to die.

Judging by the amount of Big Macs I've had this week don't bank on it