Anusoflannigan Posted November 7, 2005 Posted November 7, 2005 Hi, I have put a quote for an intruder alarm which has an option for three smoke detectors. The smoke detectors i use are the Texecom Exodus range. The property is to be rented out and the customer has been told that he needs a glass break button to trigger a fire alarm (new regs..fire ?). Is this so if they are connected to an intruder alarm? Bwanos...
jb-eye Posted November 7, 2005 Posted November 7, 2005 Hi, I have put a quote for an intruder alarm which has an option for three smoke detectors. The smoke detectors i use are the Texecom Exodus range.The property is to be rented out and the customer has been told that he needs a glass break button to trigger a fire alarm (new regs..fire ?). Is this so if they are connected to an intruder alarm? Bwanos... Stop! Read BS 5839 part 6. or other building control documents to do with fire. Customers!
Guest IM_Alarms Posted November 7, 2005 Posted November 7, 2005 Ditto the above, I think you'll find that a fire system cannot be run from an intruder alarm system. Yes, I know it is on there as a function, but it wouldn't meet the required regs (as stated above by JB)
Security Technician Posted November 7, 2005 Posted November 7, 2005 ditto all of the above, smokes are fine if it is your own house, if it is rented accomadation its a different story, you need a fire alarm i have all the bs5839 on pdf as my main field of work is fire
Guest Cerberus NI Posted November 7, 2005 Posted November 7, 2005 Nay,nay and thrice nay!!!!! It's a murky world in the land of dwellings and there are so many ways to meet requirements (BS5839 part 6) depending on it's purpose. You need to know where they are coming from BS 5839 Part 6 is the standard which applies to fire protection recommendations in dwellings including single family dwellings, HMOs and sheltered housing. The type of property covered includes bungalows, multi-storey houses, individual flats, individual maisonettes, mobile homes, individual sheltered houses, mansions, HMOs and NHS housing in the community for the mentally ill. For the purpose of this standard an HMO is interpreted as a house that is occupied by persons who do not form a single household, or a "bedsit, HMO" - i.e.. houses divided into self contained flats of one or two storeys. Grades of System To assist in the specification of the correct fire protection equipment, the standard firstly categorises appropriate fire protection equipment into six system grades - A to F. Grade A is a fire detection and alarm system which incorporates control and indicating equipment conforming to BS 5839 Part 1. In other words a 24V DC system with a control panel and a monitored supply. Grade B is a fire detection and alarm system comprising of fire detectors other than smoke alarms, fire alarm sounders and control indicating equipment which either conforms to BS 5839 Part 4 or to annex B of this part of BS 5839. For example a security panel linked to fire detectors. Grade C is a system of fire detectors and alarm sounders (which could be smoke alarms) connected to a common power supply comprising mains and a secondary supply with an element of central control. For example it could be a sides of 24OV AC or AC/DC detectors with some form of central control and maybe even incorporating break glass call points. Grade D s a system of one or more mains powered smoke alarms each with an integral standby supply. Grade E is a system of mains powered smoke alarms without a standby supply. Grade F is a system of one or more battery powered smoke alarms. Aside from these grades, you also have life or property protection that go with these grades in that you could have an a category B L3,where the L3 section is protecting the escape routes. Clear as mud!
Anusoflannigan Posted November 7, 2005 Author Posted November 7, 2005 Guys, I guess I will have to state that my smokes will just enhance an existing dedicated fire alarm system. To be honest I didnt expect my alarm system to be the only fire warning in the house but mainly an intruder alarm but with fire zones as extras.. Holy schimogy. Thanks Guys
Guest frosty Posted December 6, 2005 Posted December 6, 2005 ditto all of the above, smokes are fine if it is your own house, if it is rented accomadation its a different story, you need a fire alarmi have all the bs5839 on pdf as my main field of work is fire How did you manage to get the BS on PDF, if you don't mind me asking
Adi Posted December 6, 2005 Posted December 6, 2005 Scan it in to PDF software. I really can't be ar**** with it anymore.
Guest G.J.M Posted December 6, 2005 Posted December 6, 2005 you can also choose to buy hard or disc formats.
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