morph Posted January 12, 2006 Posted January 12, 2006 there is nothing stopping you naming names, but it doesn't really matter. Do you have two devices in every room? even with the Galaxy quote?
Guest Umster Posted January 12, 2006 Posted January 12, 2006 Hi, with the galaxy quote the company is using all Pyronix DT PIR, Entry/exit door = door contact. back door = door contact. + window Vipers as an option, costing is still to be done, should be with me by satursday.
morph Posted January 12, 2006 Posted January 12, 2006 All the Kit listed is of good quallity and should be reliable, but like most jobs it has to be carefully selected to meet the needs of the installation, without seeing the quotes it would be hard to say whether the kit listed does meet the needs of your property. I personally would prefer the Galaxy, then the Castle, then the Gartec. Others will say Texecom, menvier etc. Each system has its merits and benefits Galaxy has many features, most will never be used and Castle likewise both very capable panels. A panel is only as good as the devices connected to it, each system will need to be able to send confirmed alarms in accordance with EN50131 you can read a bit more about this here One thing to note that if one device only is triggered then only the keyholder will be called, if a seccond device is triggered then the Police would be called. You have to look at how your installer proposes to do this? some have two devices in each room(of differing types) others rely on the fact that a burglar will go into two areas (not reccomended).
Guest Umster Posted January 13, 2006 Posted January 13, 2006 All the Kit listed is of good quallity and should be reliable, but like most jobs it has to be carefully selected to meet the needs of the installation, without seeing the quotes it would be hard to say whether the kit listed does meet the needs of your property.I personally would prefer the Galaxy, then the Castle, then the Gartec. Others will say Texecom, menvier etc. Each system has its merits and benefits Galaxy has many features, most will never be used and Castle likewise both very capable panels. A panel is only as good as the devices connected to it, each system will need to be able to send confirmed alarms in accordance with EN50131 you can read a bit more about this here One thing to note that if one device only is triggered then only the keyholder will be called, if a seccond device is triggered then the Police would be called. You have to look at how your installer proposes to do this? some have two devices in each room(of differing types) others rely on the fact that a burglar will go into two areas (not reccomended). Hi, Thank you for taking the time to reply to my tread. I was thinking of going for either the complete Galaxy or the complete Gardtec setup. what do you think? I have been told from the installers that they comply with EN50131 Euro standards. They are both NSI GOLD members. I also have been doing a little research in this forum about the standards (1st Oct 2005) ( Thank you for your link) I have also been in touch with NSI, spoke to a technical officer there who advise me what I need to look out for. With regards to the trigger action, yes that's exactly what I've been told. Both companies have recommend two devices, but on in each room. Like for example, the downstairs hallway. door contact and Dual tech PIR. kitchen = door contact and Dual tech PIR. Do all rooms need two devices? Thanks again
morph Posted January 13, 2006 Posted January 13, 2006 One thing to note that if one device only is triggered then only the keyholder will be called, if a seccond device is triggered then the Police would be called. You have to look at how your installer proposes to do this? some have two devices in each room(of differing types) others rely on the fact that a burglar will go into two areas (not reccomended). Depends on your property, but ask yourself this, if a burglar did break in, when would you prefer the system to call the Police. Also depending on the door, whats the likelyhood of it being forced opened to trigger the contact especially if that is the first/seccond source of activation. Without having seen your property its hard to tell what is best for you, but your installers will have taken all the relevant factors into account(both visible and Verbal) My choice of system would be the Galaxy
Paul Giles Posted January 13, 2006 Posted January 13, 2006 Galaxy 60 is not graded as far as im led to beleive?. Replacement is the G2 or G3 PG Security Systems Somerset SSAIB Certificate of Merit Installers. www.pgsecurity.co.uk
Guest Bell box bob Posted January 14, 2006 Posted January 14, 2006 Hi the Galaxy 60 is not graded for the PD 6662 requirements the replacements are the Galaxy G2 and Grade 3 panels with upgraded psu etc good panels but more expensive also if its a grade three systems you will need anti mask sensors and inteligent door contacts and i have also been advised on grade 3 you need dual path signaling eg Redcare GSM or Dual com fun fun fun
cdosrun Posted January 15, 2006 Posted January 15, 2006 "you will need anti mask sensors and inteligent door contacts and i have also been advised on grade 3 you need dual path signaling eg Redcare GSM or Dual com fun fun fun " I agree about the Grade 3 AM detectors, and the dual path signalling, but are 'intelligent door contacts' necessary? There is an SSAIB bulletin dated 1st Dec that states that ungraded door contacts (even those without tampers) are currently acceptable. Are Grade 3 rated 'standard' surface contacts readily available? Andrew Any statement made or information provided in this post are the mere opinions of the author, and no inferrence is to be made as to the quality of information nor should any reliance be placed upon its contents.
morph Posted January 15, 2006 Posted January 15, 2006 Galaxy 60 is not graded as far as im led to beleive?.Replacement is the G2 or G3 Hi the Galaxy 60 is not graded for the PD 6662 requirements the replacements are the Galaxy G2 and Grade 3 panels with upgraded psu etc good panels but more expensive also if its a grade three systems you will need anti mask sensors and inteligent door contacts and i have also been advised on grade 3 you need dual path signaling eg Redcare GSM or Dual com fun fun fun The assumption was that the NSI Gold companies quoting would know how to do their job and that the Galaxy 60 is not graded and that they would actually be specifying a G2 or G3. Seccondly he did state that he hadn't recieved the quote yet. Also without having seen any of the quotes how can any of you assume that it is a Grade 3 or Grade 2 installation, going of on a tangent will only confuse the original issue.
Nova-Security Posted January 15, 2006 Posted January 15, 2006 Whats the best home intruder system available on the market today.Easy. Any thats fitted by me. You mean us www.nova-security.co.uk www.nsiapproved.co.uk No PMs please unless i know you or you are using this board with your proper name.
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