Guest heliart Posted January 26, 2006 Posted January 26, 2006 Another Texecom setup question, sorry. So, everything installed and working really very well. All detectors working. Now, I've just setup all the area's I need with Area Arm Suites, and that all works really very well. The problem now, is that none of the fire zones cause a fire alarm. The zones go active when you test the detector, but the panel does not recognise it as a fire. From what I gather, a zone set as Fire, will cause a fire alarm regardless of whether the area is armed or not. It looks to be a problem with how the panel handles areas, as if I put everything back to a single area, then it's fine. I thought that the fire detectors didnt really need an area set, but obviously, I'm wrong. Anyone have an insight? Thanks.
cdosrun Posted January 26, 2006 Posted January 26, 2006 Which areas have you assigned the smoke detector zones to? I may be wrong, but for a single, residential property, I doubt there is a problem assigning the smoke detectors to all areas, so that they will cause sounds to come from all of the keypads and expanders. Any statement made or information provided in this post are the mere opinions of the author, and no inferrence is to be made as to the quality of information nor should any reliance be placed upon its contents.
Guest heliart Posted January 26, 2006 Posted January 26, 2006 I've tried lots of combinations, but can't get the smoke detectors to alarm. I have 3 areas, A, B & C. I've tried assigning smoke detectors to A, B, C, A+B+C, and indeed D, but nothing. The panel sees the zone active, but no alarm. It's the question about how areas effect the processing of fire zones, as I said the manual quotes:- "9 - Fire Normally used for monitoring smoke detectors. This zone type will cause a Fire alarm with distinctive fire tone if it is activated when the system/area is armed or disarmed." To me this reads that the fire zone is independent of area state, in indeed any area. I'll have a work with Texecom support in the morning. Thanks.
cdosrun Posted January 27, 2006 Posted January 27, 2006 Have you set the keypads, expanders and panel speaker to emit Fire tones? Additionally, have you setup a Fire Bell Delay? Are the keypads and expanders assigned to areas? Andrew Any statement made or information provided in this post are the mere opinions of the author, and no inferrence is to be made as to the quality of information nor should any reliance be placed upon its contents.
Guest heliart Posted January 27, 2006 Posted January 27, 2006 So yes, I'vegone over all of this. Bell delay is zero, Using Wintex diags, I can see the zone go active when test the smoke detector. I have 3 keypads, all assigned to all zones as well as the expander. I'm going to do a little more testing today. I'm thinking it's something to do with the expander perhaps, as all the smoke detectors go into zones on this. I'll post when I figure it out. Thanks.
cdosrun Posted January 27, 2006 Posted January 27, 2006 You haven't mapped the keypad zones over the expander's have you? i.e. (assuming expander is No.1, Net 1, your keypad zones are mapped to 17 or higher). Andrew Any statement made or information provided in this post are the mere opinions of the author, and no inferrence is to be made as to the quality of information nor should any reliance be placed upon its contents.
breff Posted January 27, 2006 Posted January 27, 2006 Ive had this with PA buttons, they must be assigned to 1 area only. The opinions I express are mine and are usually correct! (Except when I'm wrong)(which I'm not)
Guest heliart Posted January 27, 2006 Posted January 27, 2006 OK, so made some progress today, also talked to Texecom technical support. I've ended up putting the fire detectors on their own area, but as it turns out this wasn't the actual problem. Anyhow, now final step is to get the digi outputs to drive my dialler. Issue here seems to be that you can only get a digi output to go active on an area/s, but I can't get the panel to alarm an area from a fire detector, only ever an individual zone. Now, if I set the digi to output on a zone, then it's fine, but you need an area to activate to capture all the fire detectors in one. Making sense?
breff Posted January 27, 2006 Posted January 27, 2006 in a word NO. perhaps you need to explain better Assign an output to fire and all areas, works for me. The opinions I express are mine and are usually correct! (Except when I'm wrong)(which I'm not)
Guest ALSEC Posted January 28, 2006 Posted January 28, 2006 Just change it for a menvier 690 and it will all work without this messing around - am I wrong????? Unless you live in a 20 room mansion then why bother - really.... Unless you intend it to be taken over by a proper alarm firm then don't bother with 690.
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