Health And Safety

[esp-protocol]

We subscribe to a health and safety newsletter and this is one of the news items.

"Company prosecuted after employee falls from stepladder

Ken Read and Son Limited, a Lincolnshire company, has been fined a total of

[Adi]

What a load of ........

If the spacker employee cant climb a pair of steps in a safe manner then he shouldnt be doing the job.

Everyone should be accountable for their own actions.

[kka]

'Everyone should be accountable for their own actions'.

providing they have had the 'training' or done the 'course'.

[jb-eye]

'Everyone should be accountable for their own actions'.

providing they have had the 'training' or done the 'course'.

This is how the French do it. In the UK if the employee hits his thumb with a hammer its the employers fault as the employe was obviously not trained to use the hammer properly. The rules are simple in bussiness:- THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS AN ACCIDENT

Jef

[secboy]

This is how the French do it. In the UK if the employee hits his thumb with a hammer its the employers fault as the employe was obviously not trained to use the hammer properly. The rules are simple in bussiness:- THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS AN ACCIDENT

Jef

Have recently started to look much deeper into the new regs for working at height and their implications for the employee and employer.

At the moment they are being tightly enforced by large companies who have contractors on site in any shape or form because a large responsibility for any breach of regs is pointed to the site owner and / or main contractor,this is deliberate to make these companies police the actions of others at no cost to the HSE or Government.

Smaller companies and sole traders are for the most part ignoring the regs and getting away with it untill an accident occurs which is reportable then as in the earlier mentioned case they will be jumped on like a ton of bricks(not from a great height because the fall arrest gear would stop the fall????????).

There is nothing wrong with the regs or working to them as long as EVERYONE has to work to the same level!! you cannot have joe blogs paying

[Adi]

If anyone in this industry needs training to climb a pair of steps in a safe manner they shouldnt be allowed to work full stop.

Anyone in this industry is educated to a certain level so should have the ability to work safely.

[kka]

If anyone in this industry needs training to climb a pair of steps in a safe manner they shouldnt be allowed to work full stop.

Anyone in this industry is educated to a certain level so should have the ability to work safely.

i agree the world of rules and regs may be going potty, but if we do not work with them, then as shown in this post, they will work against us. in this case

[Guest rjbsec]

I hope he got clobbered for damages to the steps!

[bellman]

Just a thought here--How many employees on this forem use steps and ladders but have never been on a course to be told how to use them safely???? I bet its almost every one but your employers are in breach of the new regs and can be fined---then again how many employers have started a programme to put each employee through a course?--not many I bet!!!!

I've used steps and ladders for the last 16 years or so but still had to attend a company health and safety course last month about the correct use of ladders and steps.

ALL the engineers at the branch have had to sit the course without exception.

The new working at height regs were explained and practical implementations of them were demonstrated i.e. the usage of harnesses and other fall arrest systems and how to secure ladders so they can't slip / slide or topple over.

I'm not sure how many other co's have implemented a training policy but at the end of the day, if your not competant using ladders / steps then you shouldn't be using them until you are.

Regards

Bellman

[Guest]

spacker

thats the politically correct term i take it..... its not that people dont know how to climb steps..its more on the risk taking we all have done in the past with steps and ladders..a fall from even 3 feet could end up with any of us being what YOU term a spacker...

Have recently started to look much deeper into the new regs for working at height and their implications for the employee and employer.

At the moment they are being tightly enforced by large companies who have contractors on site in any shape or form because a large responsibility for any breach of regs is pointed to the site owner and / or main contractor,this is deliberate to make these companies police the actions of others at no cost to the HSE or Government.

Smaller companies and sole traders are for the most part ignoring the regs and getting away with it untill an accident occurs which is reportable then as in the earlier mentioned case they will be jumped on like a ton of bricks(not from a great height because the fall arrest gear would stop the fall????????).

There is nothing wrong with the regs or working to them as long as EVERYONE has to work to the same level!! you cannot have joe blogs paying